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Mike Johnson accused Democrats of “cherry pick[ing] three emails out of 20,000 documents” to “try and imply that the president was guilty.”

House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) has claimed that the Democrats rushing toward a vote next week to release files linked to the sex trafficking investigation into convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein is a part of the party’s “entire game plan.”

“President Trump has clean hands. He’s not worried about it. I talk to him all the time. He has nothing to do with this. He’s frustrated that they’re turning it into a political issue,” the Louisiana politician told host Shannon Bream on “Fox News Sunday.”

Johnson called the move “not surprising because the Democrats have nothing else to talk about.”

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[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 162 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Raping children is a political issue? That's a weird thing to say, Mike.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 74 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Remember when it used to be non-controversial to say nazis are bad?

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Peppridge farm remembers.

Edit: couldn't help myself:

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Next it'll be up for debate whether murder, arson, and burglary should stay illegal

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

No, those will stay on, it's just certain people will be justified.

They really trying to have the same model Russia has. Theoretically they have legislature, courts, rule of law, but not really. One person has final word on everything.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 122 points 2 weeks ago

Why would it bring down Trump if there's nothing in the files as they say?

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 82 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How DARE the Democrats try to get to the Bottom of a GLOBAL CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING RING! How DARE they!

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 17 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, their motivation can ONLY BE political

[–] Yawweee877h444@lemmy.world 70 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Does he know something we don't know? Like they've already destroyed evidence or some other tactic to hide his obvious guilt. Trump sycophants are leading the CIA, FBI, DOJ. I have zero trust or faith in our system. No rule of law for the elites, no checks and balances.

Trump is guilty and belongs in prison along with everyone covering for him.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Trump is suddenly pushing for their release. So yeah, whatever destruction of info/etc they've been working on for the past several months has been done.

[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

There are multiple copies of the files, in many hands - I don't think editing is possible anymore. I could be wrong.

What I am expecting is Trump to just say "there see I told you, it's nothing" even as it's salacious and incriminating as hell, and Fox News carries that message, and people just move on, as our society hits a new low.

[–] III@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Trump is pushing for investigations by the DOJ into the Democrats on the list - which effectively makes the files unable to be released to the public during the investigation.

Same pedophile protection, different path.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

That is another thing happening. Not the only thing.

[–] BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world 61 points 2 weeks ago

Trump raped kids.

Nothing about the way he has handled the Epstien investigation makes sense UNLESS he raped children.

There is no word in my vocabulary that captures how disgusted I am with Mike Johnson and the rest. They know he's a child fucker. They're not stupid enough to believe otherwise.

Soulless, inhuman, evil pieces of shit. Every bad thing that happens to him for the rest of his life will be less than he deserves.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 48 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I do find it funny that all of this coulda been avoided had Trump's campaign not made Epstein an issue.

[–] Zier@fedia.io 10 points 2 weeks ago

Actually, had trump just shut his fat orange mouth and stayed in his criminal lane, he would still be quietly scamming people and may never have been caught. But his ego flared up like terminal herpes and he had to be the "president". He put himself in the spotlight, he deserves every bad thing that happens to him. I wouldn't doubt he had a hand in killing Epstein. Then again, he is as dumb as a broken rock. He thinks no one knows what magnets are, what a "stable" genius.

[–] KarlHungus42@lemmy.world 33 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

“Democrats made it a political issue”

trump literally campaigned on releasing the files. Vance promised to release the files after they took office.

How the fuck are the people seriously trying to claim that trump is innocent, yet releasing the files would be damaging to him?

[–] lb_o@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

This is such a crazy mental exercise of them to witness.

Literally Orwell's double thinking.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

How in the holy hell is it political to seek for those who commit crimes to be exposed and punished?

[–] KarlHungus42@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

A great question for republicans. Especially those who claim to care about the rule of law.

[–] jdredbeard@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Fun fact. Bill Donohue, the President of the Catholic League, is saying that it's not pedophilia to rape minors, if they are going through puberty. That's right, another Catholic shit stain is justifying the current Republican Narrative that rape of minors isn't half bad.

[–] Hope@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This was disgusting to read. For one, arguing in any capacity that it is acceptable to rape children between the ages of 11 and 14, and that it's not a church problem because most of those children were boys, is absolutely heinous.

But they don't stop there!!?! They essentially brush over that 22% of victims WERE prepubescent?! That's still many thousands of pedophiles, even if you want to argue that most of the rapists are um actually hebaphiles?!

[–] Kaliax@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Vile af. The propaganda never stops. I am so disturbed by the direction of the 21st century so far.. ugh.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 28 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

This is what makes Schumers actions last week make even less sense.

He had Trump on the ropes. He could have had Republicans dismantle the fillibuster.

Then a Epstein vote coasts through.,

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That would require schumer to actually be useful. And that’s not who he is.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

He's useful for the people who pay him. Just not the people who he is meant to represent, or the party as a whole.

He represents AIPAC, not New York.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

A possible vote on the Epstein files is apparently worth sacrificing healthcare and SNAP for millions of Americans and making Republicans worried about consequences.

Controlled opposition.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah but like, you still could have forced Republicans to own actually shitting those programs down.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Nah, clearly the out of touch DNC knows something we don't. Giving Republicans what they want is somehow good, according to them and the bootlickers here.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My theory is that he traded the release of these files. Still questionable at best.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

My theory is that he's a neoliberal corporatist traitor who decided to sabotage the party because the socialists and progressives did too well in the election. Can't have success associated with a leftward shift, ever, at all costs -- even capitulating to fascist pedos for zero gain.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Absurd. I get that you want everything to be black and white. It's certainly easier to just rage indiscriminately. But it's not productive.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

It's far less absurd than what you first suggested.

Schumer outright said his primary allegiance is to Israel.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 weeks ago

He's not entirely wrong. Democrats didn't care about the Epstein files before Trump's reelection and they don't have anything else to talk about because most of the party hates the DSA's ideas. They don't care about the victims and they'd have been happy to bury this, they're doing this because there's no other choice. It's their best political move.

Don't get me wrong, Trump is obviously in the files and this is a great political move!

But, Democrats are fair-weather allies.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 2 weeks ago

if dumpy isn't in the files that apparently don't exist (despite being 20K files being released just a few days ago...), then why would it bring down dumpy's regime?

[–] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 15 points 2 weeks ago

Why not release this nothingburger?

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Think of the childre... oh, we're not doing that now?

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago

they do, every night.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

As we've learned, trump's hands may be 'clean', but that mouth sure isn't.

It's the current game plan because it's got high visibility, the people want less pedos, not less pesos.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 15 points 2 weeks ago

Nothing about Trump is clean

[–] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Bitch is guilty. Full stop

[–] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 9 points 2 weeks ago

Mike Johnson accused Democrats of “cherry pick[ing] three emails out of 20,000 documents” to “try and imply that the president was guilty.”

Buttery emails anyone?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

My desire for the people on Epstein's list to go to jail has nothing to do with who they are.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But how exactly will they bring him down? He made a deal with the devil so he can never face consequences for anything.

[–] Quexotic@infosec.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, all the Republicans' souls in exchange for his freedom.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

And they are right...?

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago

I demand a more clear plan. Let's assume the files contain damming evidence Trump raped kids, evidence that would have any ordinary citizen immediately arrested. What will happen next? Impeachment? Prosecution? Since he wasn't president when he committed those crimes, he shouldn't have immunity but he probably will somehow.

[–] dan69@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Yup prop your candidate and use as the scapegoat classic shooting yourself in the foot..