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Hey, German here. What the f*** are Americans doing at the other side of the Atlantic? Some of you already know this monstrosity. I did'nt. This is a Ford F650 Truck and when I stepped out of my Youtube Bubble I realized, it was marketed as the "biggest, baddest Truck on the road" for the everyday American. Are you guys serious?! Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry? Americas bloodiest wars have been fought in the middle east to secure oil, bombing nations to rubble. And all, for this bullshit? The excess, waste and decadence is mind boggling to me and people on Reddit seriously justifying this by "you know dude I'm 6,4ft. I don't fit in any other vehicle" makes me go up the wall.

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[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 129 points 11 months ago (15 children)

You know this is by no means a common vehicle right? I’ve never seen one outside of a few pictures only found on anti-car posts. F350s are even rare to see on the roads, F150s are more common than grass and F250s are a daily sight unfortunately.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

This isn't even a 350

This is a heavily modified F650(750?). They took a commercial truck and slapped a pickup truck body on it. It's comically useless, and costs 150 thousand dollars.

Here's a video where a guy reviews it.

https://youtu.be/JrHDeSMvnt4?si=bNlcS9prXg3J_Q0W

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (5 children)

150k is about how much you'll pay for a RAM here in Australia - and dickheads are still buying them.

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[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 20 points 11 months ago

You actually probably see a lot of F250s and F350s, but they are used as commercial vehicles, often with stuff bolted to the bed (or in the case of the F350, sold without a bed and have aftermarket attachments).

Many tow trucks are F350s/F450s (and bigger for towing bigger vehicles), ambulances are often F550s, bucket trucks are F650s/F750s, etc.

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 106 points 11 months ago (6 children)

The F650 is a commercial vehicle. You can't buy one from Ford without a commercial account with them. You need a CDL to drive it. They're uncommon to see, and when you do, they're invariably used to do actual work.

No, they're not used just to drive to McDonald's.

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[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 94 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (37 children)

This is a really braindead and disingenuous take. The F650 is a commercial vehicle. Attempting to pretend that "Americans" drive these is moronic, because the number of private citizens who drive one of these as a personal vehicle is probably in the triple digits in a country with a population of 332,000,000.

I know it's fasionable to farm for upvotes these days by blaring AMERICANS BIG TRUCKS BAD. But no one is "driving these to McD's to get a McFlurry." Very, very few people own one of these just to be "decadent."

You may as well get on your high horse about Americans driving big rigs all the time while you're at it. Because they totally do!!!!! (It's true!) Ones who are truck drivers, you know, delivering the goods you rely on every day.

On the very outside edge of the graph, there are probably a few outliers who own one of these to tow something enormous: A big horse trailer or a box trailer with their airplane in it or something. I have never seen one of these on the road that wasn't an actual commercial vehicle like a tow truck or similar.

The problem with obviously ridiculous whinging like this is that it dilutes the actual useful message, which is that America's transportation infrastructure is fucked up, and our reliance on fossil fuels (not just trucks) is Too Damn High.

[–] thehorsefromthehorseheresy@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago (6 children)

Yeah these communities should be "we are all victims of car dominated society and infrastructure: here is the problem and here are some solutions" but instead they're just people who have never set foot in North America getting triggered by vehicles 90% of the population isn't even aware that it even exists.

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[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Seriously bro. You nailed it. I've seen f 450 and f 550s on the road that do exactly what your talking about. It's honestly common. But they are all commercial trucks. have never seen an f 650 besides on the internet, if I have it's commercial and not in cab form.

The point stands with actual consumer trucks, there's no need to cherry pick this truck and look like a clown.

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 76 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The year is 2068. Everyone takes the bus to work. Their own personal bus.

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[–] crashoverride@lemmy.world 74 points 11 months ago (12 children)

Ok, see to put thin in context a little bit, this truck is not for, nor is it even marketed towards regular people. This is a modular truck, so this is going to be converted into ambulances, tow trucks, bucket trucks, etc. This one does have a bed on it, but they had to get one from like an F-350 and modify it to get it to fit. And while you can buy this truck, it's not really a thing on roads here.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemm.ee 26 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Just to add to this, and affirm that it's not intended to be a "go to McDonald's" truck, here is the actual product page for this model where it is marketed as a commercial vehicle.

https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/f650-f750/

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[–] toff@feddit.de 25 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Btw... German car companies built those monstrosities...

The Unimog U500 was more or less just a marketing gag, but the G63 was a real thing...

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[–] thoughtorgan@lemmy.world 70 points 11 months ago (6 children)

This is custom made by a shop. Ford sells the front end and cab, and a small shop builds the rest.

It's prohibitively expensive to the point of being a non issue. U need to calm down bro.

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[–] rbesfe@lemmy.ca 64 points 11 months ago (1 children)

These are novelty vehicles for the ultra wealthy. "Normal" pickups are already comically large and ripe for mockery, no need to hyperbolize

[–] Dettweiler42@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago (3 children)

This is a work truck for commercial use. The bed in this image is an aftermarket mod done by someone with more money than sense. OP is just outrage baiting.

https://www.ford.com/commercial-trucks/f650-f750/

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[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 56 points 11 months ago

I used to drive an F650

In the military

For my job

It was a truck to refuel aircraft.

People don't drive these on the roads, but our trucks are too big.

[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 50 points 11 months ago (8 children)

I’m not defending the truck or America but I don’t think that one is common outside of industry. I live in the South and have never seen one. F150’s are very common, you see F250’s here and there, and F350s are basically exclusively work trucks. I didn’t even know it went up to F650 (the F750 apparently exists but seems like it’s really only for industry).

Ford’s web site has them “starting at” $80k but without a bed or any consumer features. It seems like they’re more the base for order things like fleets of tow trucks or dump trucks. I’m sure a mega rich person can buy one but it’s probably a weird custom thing that costs $200,000 and is missing whatever creature comforts go into vanity trucks.

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[–] Glifted@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I work in the US auto industry. I'm not happy about this shit either.

Also, F650 is a rare vehicle so it really isn't a good one to be mad about. F150's and F250's are everywhere though

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Most people in Europe shake their heads an F150... Even as a work car it's terrible

Professional trucks here are the ford custom transit

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[–] CADmonkey@lemmy.world 41 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This isn't really something you see on US roads, unless you replace the bed with a flatbed or box. No normal person owns one of these as a pickup truck.

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[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Can confirm, the United States has lost it's mind. And yes, you have it down. The US goes abroad to secure resources for capitalist industry and has been promoting upsell and excess for some time now. Verhoeven's satirical advertising blurbs in Robocop (1987) were right on the mark.

Making us stupid and wanting to spend our money on $200 K-Pop bobble heads is exactly the world our corporations strive for, and the means to regulate them by a public-serving government was gutted in the 1980s by the Reagan administration. George W. Bush and Donald Trump (and the minimal pushback during the Clinton and Obama eras) are the natural result.

And in the next two decades you might get to see how the US does civil war and fascism. Every election lost by a Republican is challenged for legitimacy in an effort to neuter elections and create an autocratic one-party regime. Hopefully, this kind of shenanigan should sound dangerously familiar.

You got it right in one. We are out of our fucking minds, no small part to some willful efforts to turn the people of the US into mindless obedient consumers, but an epidemic of intergenerational mental illness has also contributed to Florida-Man-like conduct and truckers re-configuring their cars to belch soot as rolling coal.

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[–] rsuri@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago (5 children)

This size of truck isn't common. Coal rolling is both far more egregious and common than this.

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[–] wrath_of_grunge@kbin.social 33 points 11 months ago (2 children)

i live in the south, you never see these things in real life, and i'm deep in truck country.

these things are comically impractical. like you couldn't pull into a parking garage, or much of anything with this. you'd be parking and walking to wherever you were trying to go. they would likely hit the limit sign and overhang on a typical McDonald's.

the much more common trucks would be F150/250's.

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[–] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Is the end goal really to drive a Monster Truck to McDs to get a McFlurry?

The end goal is to drive a Monster Truck right OVER THE FUCKING TOP OF McDs HELL YEAH BROTHA CAN I GET AN AMEN WITH A SIDE OF FRIES?!?!?!!

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[–] bearfootbees@lemmy.ca 33 points 11 months ago (5 children)

I'm 6'4, 250 lbs. Canadian

I drive an 02 golf. Before this, a Toyota 4runner (1st gen).

I'm not trying to brag... But I think it's not a "I'm too big for anything smaller" it's a "I'm too insecure for anything smaller", aka "my dick is too small for anything smaller" syndrome.

I've recently made friends with a group of Germans who have come to Canada. I'm astonished by the practicality and industriousness I've noticed in contrast to the idiocy of most Canadians. I'm not saying you don't have any idiots in Germany. I'm just saying culturally, there seem to be some big differences.

Remember, don't let the dumbest of the world ruin your happiness.

Prost

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[–] yokonzo@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Also can we stop blaming the average american for the shit corperations or the government is doing? We don't like it either, they don't listen to us

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (4 children)
  1. Agree this is a stupid vehicle
  2. To everyone outside the US, I don't believe I've ever actually seen one of these on the road. FWIW, I've lived in two US states and traveled the whole country regularly for work.

The unofficial tagline for these things is, "if you weren't born with a BIG something... Why not buy a BIG something? That'll show em all..."

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[–] Toneswirly@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

You're Wrong. We don't get a McFlurry; the machine is almost always broken due to fucked up patent law and corporate greed. Merica.

[–] nbailey@lemmy.ca 30 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Can you name the truck with four wheel drive, smells like steak and seats thirty five?

Canyonero!

12 yards long, two lanes wide, 65 tones of American Pride!

Canyonero!!!

https://youtu.be/PI_Jl5WFQkA?si=Ly_7PhJ2IOzFXTDB

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[–] RavenFellBlade@startrek.website 25 points 11 months ago

I drive a Ford F-550 every day. To drive 20 special needs people to work and back. Because it's a bus.

[–] captainchaos47@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As an American, I agree, shit is ridiculous. I'd say about 80% of these big ass trucks on the road aren't even being used as trucks.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago (2 children)

And then the owner bitches about fuel prices.

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[–] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

These exist but are very rare. This is a commercial truck meant for things like small dump beds, bucket trucks, etc. There are a few shops that specialize in doing these types of custom builds for people who have way too much money and too little sense. There is a shop in my town that does this sort of work and they have something like this as a promotional tool but kost if their customers don't get anything this extreme.

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[–] menemen@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Nowadays normal people are driving cars meant for psychopaths. Real psychopaths have to one up this. It is just natural.

[–] qevlarr@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I read this article recently, which describes this sort of ridiculous behavior perfectly. "Oh, we can't drive big gas guzzling children killing trucks? I'm gonna buy an even bigger one! How about that?" These people are behaving like children being taught they can't have everything, and they're having a big tantrum about it.

https://www.okdoomer.io/its-an-extinction-burst/

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[–] art@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (4 children)

This is a modified commercial truck. It's designed for heavy work, large construction, towing ridiculously large things, etc. Someone did custom work on it to make it look like a consumer vehicle.

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[–] Someology@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I promise, you're unlikely to see an "everyday American" driving an F650. There might be a literal handful of exceptions out there somewhere, but most people will only ever see this in industrial applications. Most often you'll see a 650 outfitted with a cargo bed or a (extra large, for towing big rigs) wrecker setup, or something large, robust, and industrial like that. This is just a publicity/marketing stunt. 99% of Ford F350 and larger trucks you will ever see will be industrial/cargo/heavy equipment moving/etc. industrial job vehicles. It's even relatively common to buy the truck, and buy the bed you need for your industrial application, custom. This is not something you'll see set up like a pickup truck in very many American driveways. The handful of those exceptions are the same sort of enthusiast niche that will hot rod customize to a ridiculous impractical degree a regular car, just to say they can. Very small group.

Reacting as if this is real is just as insane as thinking it's really common for somebody to trick out their excavator and drive it to McDonald's.

[–] Lyricism6055@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago (10 children)

I'm 6'5" and I don't fit in any of this garbage. These trucks are built for short men with mental stability issues

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[–] charonn0@startrek.website 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Don't believe everything you read on the internet.

[–] n2burns@lemmy.ca 19 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is aftermarket. The F650 is a Commercial truck which is sold by Ford incomplete (without a bed). You'll frequently see them built out for specific purposes like dump truck, tow truck, specific hauling, etc. (see Ford's page for some examples). I believe in most jurisdictions you need a commercial air-brakes driver's license to be able to drive one of these.

[–] Robcia1220@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Most people in these comments act like we just have car lots full of trucks just like this ready to be sold to the regular consumer. Just a couple searches on the internet or simply reading other comments in this thread will tell you that we don’t. To get something like this you’re paying well over $100,000 and you would have to specifically ask to have this set up. That’s if they even do it at a factory. This could very well be aftermarket. Trucks this size are meant for commercial use and are purchased with just the cab and open frame. After the purchase they would be delivered to whatever facility needed to outfit it for its specific purpose whether it’s a tow truck, electric service, waste management. Etc. Just because 1 douchebag decided to kit one these out as an oversized pickup and some YouTuber decides to market like “biggest and baddest” is a good thing doesn’t mean that everyone here is doing it. Like calm down. Most of us don’t like it either.

Look at it this way. Technically this isn’t the biggest and baddest for any everyday citizen of any nation. You could have a semi with a sleeper cab. Something like that would be massive for the everyday person, and for everyday use it wouldn’t be bad, it would be horrendous!

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[–] LifeOfChance@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (3 children)

If you hate the stock model you're going to hate this

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[–] indepndnt@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

When I rented a 26' U-Haul it was an F-650. That's pretty much the only time I've seen one.

[–] DannyMac@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (4 children)

I live in a rural state and I have never seen this truck in the wild. It must be extremely niche.

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[–] jackoneill@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’m 6’8” and I drive a Honda accord. I’m fat too. No excuse man

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