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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 148 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well. No points for subtlety.

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 95 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It still flies over the head of a lot of republicans.

They just don’t know that, it’s practically a direct translation of hitler’s rhetoric- and they’ve never believe it, even if you show them hitler’s massive speeches.

[–] ShunkW@lemmy.world 101 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Many Republicans would support Hitler today. They like his ideas if you replace Jews with immigrants.

[–] GlitterInfection@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to replace Jews with anything...

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 20 points 10 months ago

No, but I think most Republicans have groups they hate more than they hate Jews.

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[–] Ranvier@sopuli.xyz 146 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Why do all of his speeches sound like they were pulled straight from the nazis?

"Donald Trump appears to take aspects of his German background seriously. John Walter works for the Trump Organization, and when he visits Donald in his office, Ivana told a friend, he clicks his heels and says, “Heil Hitler,” possibly as a family joke.

Last April, perhaps in a surge of Czech nationalism, Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler’s collected speeches, My New Order, which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed. Kennedy now guards a copy of My New Order in a closet at his office, as if it were a grenade. Hitler’s speeches, from his earliest days up through the Phony War of 1939, reveal his extraordinary ability as a master propagandist. "

Oh yeah, that's why. Thanks vanity fair.

[–] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] and@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

“Let me tell you folks, I read. Big words, small words, I read all kinds of words. Hell, I’ve read thousands of words just this morning. They call me the greatest reader of all time, folks. Some of the toughest books, magazines, I read them all. Not like that fool Ron DeSatanist, I bet he hasn’t read a single book in his life. Sleepy Joe? Probably forgot how to read just like he forgot how to be president. But me, I read more than anyone in the world. I am, what some folks call, a “reader”. And that’s why, folks, you can trust me, you can donate to me, because I’m a very smart guy, because I read, you know, smart people, they read. It’s just what I do, I read. Now if you excuse me folks, I’ve gotta go start reading.”

[–] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The sad part is I can't even tell if that's a real quote or not at a glance.

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[–] youCanCallMeDragon@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I mean he did all but use the phrase “blood and soil.” No surprise he’s copying off shitler’s notes.

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[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I was thinking exactly the same thing and then I saw your comment. I bet even Trump can't believe how far he has gotten basically saying the same type of crazy shit Hitler used to say. Trump is really calling to the baser instincts of a disturbingly large group of people.

It is incredibly dangerous, and so bizarre to witness it happening again, not as a historical narrative, but in real time.

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[–] can@sh.itjust.works 19 points 10 months ago (3 children)
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[–] BruceTwarzen@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago

His speeches sound like nazi fanfiction because he's trying to get elected by americans

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 118 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree with Trump. Ever since the first European settlers came to the North America, the area has been in heavy decline. From polluting rivers to the point where they could be lit on fire, to the last president who was a fascist.

[–] halowpeano@lemmy.world 64 points 10 months ago (3 children)

You're full of absolute shit, Europeans were just the peanut on the turd. Ever since proto-Asians crossed Beringia North America has gone to hell, killing the sabertooth tigers and hunting all the really fucking cool megafauna to extinction. There used to be giant sloths here, and sloths are so chill.

[–] sailingbythelee@lemmy.world 27 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Yeah, king. Motherfucking North America was like Africa, except less hot.

Woolly mammoths, giant armadillos and three species of camels were among more than 30 mammals that were hunted to extinction by North American humans 13,000 to 12,000 years ago, according to the most realistic, sophisticated computer model to date. The news is reported in the June 8 issue of the journal Science. ...

Some of the mammals that became extinct are:

  • woolly mammoths

  • Columbian mammoths

  • American mastodons

  • three types of ground sloths

  • glyptodonts

  • giant armadillos

  • several species of horses

  • four species of pronghorn antelopes

  • three species of camels

  • giant deer

  • several species of oxen

  • giant bison

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2001/06/010608081621.htm

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[–] carl_dungeon@lemmy.world 116 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Can this guy just drown in the fucking tub already, Jesus Christ.

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago

I fully expected him to have already died on the shitter pushing out a McWopper

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 102 points 10 months ago (5 children)

It's lead and microplastics that are poisoning the blood of our country

[–] DemBoSain@midwest.social 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And lead. Don't forget lead.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And hate. But worst of all: lead.

[–] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 22 points 10 months ago

Hate may just be a symptom of lead.

[–] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

And fracking wastewater.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 84 points 10 months ago (4 children)

When whatever conflagration that MAGA causes is over, those who survive will have a duty to record what Trump and his supporters were. No Milgrahm experiments to explain why people reflexively obey authority. No excuses about how Trump was so charismatic and could sway and persuade.

Nobody is being tricked or persuaded. Trump is paradoxically the most transparent politician in American history. He's no great persuader. Listening to him speak is like watching a drunk man cross an icy street. The truth is LOTS of Americans fucking love fascism! They want people to be harmed and killed. They'll suffer hardships, and take losses to make it happen. They raise Trump on their shoulders because he tells them what they want to hear. And they'll happily hoist someone else up should Trump stumble.

Remember the Dominion lawsuit against Fox reviled that the network presenters were cowed and intimated by the viewership. All these years people like Jon Stewart told us that Fox news radicalized Memaw and Poppop. Maybe all along it was the deplorables that radicalized Fox.

At some point, people will be standing in the rubble of American cities asking "how could this happen"? Tell them Americans wanted it; Americans voted for it; and Americans gleefully held hands and jumped into the abyss.

[–] derf82@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

People want to believe that deep down, most people are good. I believe this to be a lie people tell themselves. No, most people are awful and would fuck over anyone they don’t know if they do much as think it will make them better off.

[–] Xanis@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People are good, until they aren't. That's the trick: Creating environments where people become more awful, more quickly. Like upgrading your barracks in a RTS game.

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[–] yesman@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I think you've got it twisted. People do awful stuff because they think it's good. The Nazis thought Jewish extermination was helping. Theirs a Documentary on Netflix about German soldiers tasked with shooting Jews. For most of them it was a horrible ordeal. One of the biggest motivators for continuing was the thought that shirking one's "duty" meant your comrade was going to have to do it for you. (one of the rationale for the concentration camps was to spare the death squads from PTSD)

I mentioned the Milgram experiment. If you take psy101 they're going to tell you that that experiment proved that humans will harm each other for the sake of an authority figure. But that's not true. Repetitions of that experiment that replaced the lab-coat guy with one wearing a military or police uniform and you went from the vast majority willing to harm people to the vast majority refusing. People weren't obeying authority, they were volunteers who wanted to help science. They thought continuing a harmful experiment was their duty.

You've probably heard that quote from Fred Rogers about how when something tragic happens, "look for the helpers". Well, it turns out that many of the people who cause tragedy think they're helping.

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[–] sploosh@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Bruh you cannot apologize for Fox. Their on-air people lie to anyone who will listen every God damn day, why would they stop lying just because they're under oath?

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[–] guyrocket@kbin.social 74 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Political candidate tells nation of immigrants that immigrants are BAD. Film at 11.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 72 points 10 months ago (6 children)

Isn't he married to an immigrant?

[–] loutr@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 months ago

Slaves and mail-order brides are OK.

[–] cultsuperstar@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

What Trump is referring to non-white immigrants.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

No, not like that.

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[–] hOrni@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Trump is racist. Big fucking news. His supporters don't care about racism. They are racists and they see racism as a good thing.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It's not just racism. It's straight up Nazi ideology.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 61 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you want hitler, because that’s how you get Hitler.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

No, he's not charismatic, not that far from grave and doesn't have any ideology or potent supporters (like officers, aristocrats).

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[–] ChimpanzeeThat@aussie.zone 56 points 10 months ago (7 children)

You know who's not 'pouring into America'? People with options.

Unless you're fleeing the third world, I can't imagine why America would even be on your radar. He's obsessing over the wrong problem.

[–] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 12 points 10 months ago

That's such a great way to put it.

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[–] ApeNo1@lemm.ee 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

“ Trump is the son, and grandson, of immigrants: German on his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s. None of his grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in the United States or spoke English as their mother tongue. “

You know, he may have a point.

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 46 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Two of his three wives are immigrants. His in-laws benefited from chain migration. His third son is an anchor baby. None of his supporters are capable of recognizing these facts.

[–] desconectado@lemm.ee 16 points 10 months ago

Ha, jokes on you for thinking him and his followers think white immigrants are "immigrants". They use that word because it's the only acceptable one, but it's clearly not what they are referring to.

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[–] chitak166@lemmy.world 47 points 10 months ago (26 children)

Immigration is one of the best solutions to fix rural America.

So of course rural Americans are going to be against it.

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[–] iMastari@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Wasn't his father an immigrant?

[–] TechyDad@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago

No. Fred Trump was born in NYC. Trump's grandfather, though, was an immigrant.

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[–] girlfreddy@sh.itjust.works 28 points 10 months ago (21 children)

I like most of you Americans, but I don't wanna share the longest undefended border anymore if that asshole is elected again.

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[–] clearedtoland@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

He said the quiet part out loud. Except it’s no longer quiet. It’s loud and very clear to his base.

[–] AceFuzzLord@lemm.ee 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

It's always funny whenever anyone who isn't native American says immigrants are "poisoning the blood of our country" when anyone who isn't Native American has been doing that for hundreds of years to them.

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

Now there goes a man who really hates his own grandfather...

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