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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 86 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Doesn't apply to fish, as they can't move their eyes or heads. A wider field of vision is more advantageous in their case.

[–] Lux@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

i think it may be affected by the need to watch above and below as well

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

And the fact that sight is much less valuable and more limited underwater

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

how does this affect jellyfish

[–] Kokolores@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

Fish can move their eyes. I don't know if it applies to all of them. Here's a study about their eye movement with further source in the introduction. Link

[–] kazaika@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Also many fish or ocean animals tend to have other sensory organs as eyes arent that useful in darker depths

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 4 points 2 weeks ago

Also for an enormous part of their evolutionary history sharks were prey animals.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 63 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Sharks are prey animals for giant squid.

Giant squid are prey animals for Cthulhu.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And the whole thing about Orcas coming at them from the side and knocking them over so they essentially fall asleep and then the Orca may or may not eat its liver.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 weeks ago

the Orca may or may not eat its liver.

Depends if it has some fava beans and a nice Chianti

[–] Klear@quokk.au 9 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)
[–] morto@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

They're unicorns, therefore magical creatures, making anything possible

[–] io@piefed.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

causing a commotion again, i see

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Made up animal. No way anything that adorable lives in the sea.

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Where does Cthulhu have its eyes though

[–] Onomatopoeia@lemmy.cafe 10 points 2 weeks ago
[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cthulhu is just a bored angel.

So everywhere.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

Dude's practically a cyclops.

[–] serpineslair@lemmy.world 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Damn, who knew the teacher was a predator all along...

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

He's an ape, so he's a predator!

[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Yet another example of why people need to learn to use the word "mammal" instead of "animal" when they mean "mammal".

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Isn't is also a generalisation rather than a rule?

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[–] Timecircleline@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

But the Arabian sand boa is well known to be the most predatory of snakes:

ETA: This is a joke. I don't think there is a "most predatory snake" (though I guess you could argue that egg-eaters are least predatory?). I just like their goofy faces.

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[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Birds of prey have entered the chat.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They are significantly more forward-facing than the eyes of, say, a pigeon.

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[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

Does this really applies to mammal when things like Koala and Sloth both have front facing eye?

Or does that mean dropbear is real

[–] gigiocor@lemmy.eco.br 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Those animals are like our primate relatives, they climb for a living, so depth perception is pretty important unless you want to end up breaking your skull because you miscalculated how far a branch was

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 weeks ago

because you miscalculated how far a branch was

Except koalas do that all the time. So often that they evolved extra cushioning for their brains

[–] hakunawazo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Don't underestimate sloths.

[–] MotoAsh@piefed.social 5 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I mean, have you seen sloth claws? Crazy... I'd almost go for the monster from It Follows than a truly pissed off sloth ... at least, y'know, if it also knew where I was at all times and actually made the effort.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

So likely immortal snail. Only it's slower.

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[–] Burninator05@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Their teeth aren't sunshine and rainbows either. If they want to bite you they'll grab you with their claws and pull you in.

[–] dunz@feddit.nu 3 points 2 weeks ago

While they aren't predators, they aren't really prey animals either, right?

[–] Simulation6@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Is it all predators or just pursuit and ambush style predators? They are the ones that really need depth perception. There must be a real cost to depth perception, so animals would have to have a need for it, even if they are not predators. Sharks have the lateral line senses, which is a lot better in the water then vision.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago

I don't think there's a hard rule you can put on it. Sharks are ambush predators, but they need a wide field of vision to scan above and below for prey. Monkeys are mostly herbivores or opportunistic omnivores, but they have forward facing eyes to jump through trees. It's just about what they animal needs their eyes to do, and forward facing eyes are mostly used for trying to grab another animal.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

There's probably an obvious exception I cant remember, but maybe this only applies to mammals?

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 10 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Pandas (both giant and red) would be exceptions I would think, since they aren’t predators, and in fact almost exclusively herbivorous.

[–] chatokun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I think giant panda's a bit special because they were originally carnivorous (or at least evolved from carnivorous bears) and they retain a carnivorous digestive system. The main theory iirc is they started eating bamboo due to food pressure, and I guess really liked it and won't eat what their body is built for.

If someone just saw their bones, they'd be classified as carnivores.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

they started eating bamboo due to food pressure, and I guess really liked it and won't eat what their body is built for.

AND they won't fuck! If ever there was a species (other than humans) actively trying to make itself go extinct..

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

That bamboo must be really good it they forgo meat AND sex

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Pandas aren't true herbivores, they're more like vegetarians. Their teeth, digestive tracks, and eyes are all better adapted to eat meat, but they're too dumb and clumsy to catch any, so they've settled on bamboo. If a smaller, dumber, clumsier animal moved into their ecosystem, they would start eating it immediately.

[–] SolarMonkey@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

The morphological characteristics of extinct relatives of the giant panda suggest that while the ancient giant panda was omnivorous 7 million years ago (mya), it only became herbivorous some 2–2.4 mya with the emergence of A. microta.[64][67] Genome sequencing of the giant panda suggests that the dietary switch could have initiated from the loss of the sole umami taste receptor, encoded by the genes TAS1R1 and TAS1R3 (also known as T1R1 and T1R3), resulting from two frameshift mutations within the T1R1 exons.[54]Umami taste corresponds to high levels of glutamate as found in meat and may have thus altered the food choice of the giant panda.[68]

Wikipedia says otherwise, despite them still having many carnivore/omnivore features. It’s also -very- unlikely there haven’t been suitable prey species in their range in the last 2.4 million years.

Their faces, bodies, behavior, and various aspects of their metabolism are adaptations for bamboo-eating. They were omnivores, but they are no longer.

Two of the panda's most distinctive features, its large size and round face, are adaptations to its bamboo diet. Anthropologist Russell Ciochon observed: "[much] like the vegetarian gorilla, the low body surface area to body volume [of the giant panda] is indicative of a lower metabolic rate. This lower metabolic rate and a more sedentary lifestyle allows the giant panda to subsist on nutrient poor resources such as bamboo."[62] The giant panda's round face is the result of powerful jaw muscles, which attach from the top of the head to the jaw.[62] Large molars crush and grind fibrous plant material.[64]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_panda

I like how everyone replying to me is giving pandas all these special asterisks to their classification that don’t actually exist or matter, when it’s literally just an exception to the predator rule, and has been for over 2 million years.

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[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 5 points 2 weeks ago

Works with an octopus or squid too.

Many tentacles raised.

[–] FosterMolasses@leminal.space 5 points 2 weeks ago

That sharkie is adorkable as hell lol

[–] m3t00@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago
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