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[–] panda_abyss@lemmy.ca 108 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I have no idea what most of this means.

Obviously I get why you wouldn’t want to bring your sister to a bar with bears, they’ll smell the menstruation, but I don’t get the rest.

[–] QuinnyCoded@sh.itjust.works 146 points 1 week ago (4 children)

“Fujoshi” is a Japanese term that refers to female fans of media focusing on (skinny hairless) gay male relationships, or Boys’ Love (BL)

a bear is a gay man that is the opposite of a twink, a large hairy man. The sister would love to be in a space with twinks, but not bears.

[–] GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 62 points 1 week ago

More specifically, the sister was expecting to be in a gay bar surrounded by twinks and very excited at the prospect, but all of her hopes and dreams were crushed under the combined weight of a barful of large, hairy men.

[–] laserm@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago (2 children)

So fujoshis are just female yaoi gooners?

[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 14 points 1 week ago

female yaoi gooners

My new band's name. We're all bears.

[–] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 week ago

More or less yeah

[–] SourDrink@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Now, I've heard that speed has something to do with it.

[–] phx@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Isn't this also a play on the "I choose the bear" thing where men are all essentially called "potential rapists"?

[–] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

I don't believe so but I could be wrong

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Fujoshis (defined rotten girls in japanese culture) like yaoi (basically slender beautiful men gay romance), bear night would be a fan for girls who like bara (overly muscular gay hairy men)

[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've heard that yaoi was more meant for the female audience, and bara for a male audience., but there are probably different interpretations.

[–] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Baras origins were male oriented yes(general gay content). Yaoi was an offshoot of shoujo media which are female audience forward. whether you consume the content has no bearing tot he terms. Doesnt stop some guy who wants to consume yaoi, or some female who wants to consume bara.

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 2 points 1 week ago

"Guys" and "females", huh.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Bears don't need muscle, unless I am misinformed. I think they just need to be large; whether by muscle, fat or a combination is irrelevant

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also there are muscular twinks. Tbh most "twinks" in media have abs. They don't have bulging muscle, but they're almost always depicted with lean muscle. Because body shaming.

[–] djsoren19@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

also just like, most people don't get a twinkish figure by sitting around and doing nothing.

typically takes a lot of time in the gym to get slender and thin. not many ways to get a tight tummy that looks cute in a crop that doesn't also work your ab muscles.

[–] KuraiWolfGaming@pawb.social 2 points 1 week ago

a high metabolism helps, but yeah that shit is a skill of its own

[–] gray@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I have googled the meaning of fujoshi five (5) times. But it never sticks

[–] renzhexiangjiao@piefed.blahaj.zone 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I don't know if this will help you, but the "fu" in fujoshi means rotten and it's the same "fu" as the one in tofu = "rotten beans". As for "joshi" it means girl, but I can't really relate it to anything that might be more familiar. The only thing I can think of is that in JK (japanese slang for high school girl), J stands for joshi, but JK is probably more obscure slang than fujoshi

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Wait a minute.

How does that work for the kind of... stereotypical emote/phrase of 'fu fu fu'?

Like, I'm seeing it literally translated as 'giggle', but based on the context I usually see it in...

its usually more like ... some kind of devious plotting is going on, or someone is being mocked, and this is that kind of laughter...

or, a woman is basically somewhere between aroused and embarassed, and perhaps more slyly... 'laughing it off', as we would say in English ... ?

Yes, “fu fu fu” is more like the western sinister/creepy “muahahaha” villain laugh.

[–] Holytimes@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Rule one of any language. Homographs and homonyms will always be there to confuse you!

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I'm trying to imagine someone, an English speaker, instead of laughing as basically 'ha ha ha', instead laughing as 'gross gross gross'.

Thats my attempt at transliterating 'fu fu fu', lol.

Other thing that I picked up via Karate:

Many Japanese people don't count 4 as 'shi', but instead as 'yon', evem though both do mean 4.

This is because 'shi' roughly also means 'death', at least this was how several Japanese Karatekas tried to explain it to me in broken English, as I attempted and failed to converse with them in broken Japanese.

I think this ... holds more true when formulating certain kanji than it does for the simple syllable itself... but I'm not really sure, lol.

My idiot American brain is still fundamentally baffled by kanji / complex pictographic languages.

... There was that one time I met a guy who swore he had been outcast from the Yakuza, who had a fucked up finger, and also was a 4th Don Black Belt, and demonstrated this to me lets say... sufficiently that I believed him on that...

He told me the correct term for someone such as himself was 'yakushi', after I made a joke about him being a yokai.

[–] pooberbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago
[–] MissJinx@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

I never learn.
I see something I don't understand I google the meaning I regret

[–] AeonFelis@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago

So much for choosing the bear I guess

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

i am so annoyed that i understand this perfectly.

[–] kelpie_returns@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Not a fujoshi, but kinda relate. Boys r icky