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Do you still have faith in humanity?

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[–] Fedditor385@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

Never had. How can you have faith in a species which puts most effort towards advancing weapons to destroy as much as possible of it's own species.

[–] itkovian@lemmy.world 1 points 45 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

I have faith in people, but not in humanity as a whole. Our governments are run by some of the most disgusting people imaginable, politicians, who are controlled by even worse people, the rich.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

idk...

just an example: I never really had any of my peers stand up for me when I get bullied in school... I doubt that in the adult world, others are gonna step in since its even more dangerous than k-12 so people are just gonna be bystanders while I get beaten in broad daylight (hypothetical, haven't actually been assulted as an adult yet)...

maybe if people stood up to bullies more, I'd have more faith, but as of now, I feel so alone... even family feels very cold to me... but I feel even more scared to leave and be alone out in the world... like a "the enemy you know" type of thing...

like its a "kill or be killed" type of world

-Philly, PA, USA

People from other places might feel differently

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 6 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

"Still"? That would imply that I ever had faith in humanity.

[–] wackyheartfluid@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Zero. I have unshakable belief that we're collective morons with self-destruction baked into our DNA.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 hours ago

Nope. Not even in living beings at this points.

I know understand Dr. Manhattan saying that a inert rock in Mars is more interesting than a chain of self replicating amino acids which just want to replicate themselves.

[–] 87Six@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I feel people are really either stupid, naive, or evil

There's a tiny sliver of people that I have faith in, in there

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I don't. I do.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

Life is cyclical

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It's not worse than before.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

"Before" had WW2 and WW1. Now it's that but with nukes and the Internet.

[–] Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Yes, 100%. Go talk to people. Travel. Trust. Love. The internet, social media, the news are as real as lord of the rings, or fortnite.

I have almost never met someone evil or truly unreasonable. I have of course left places that were not working for me. People trying to rope me into status games I didn't care for etc, or pressure me to do stuff I didn't want to do. Sometimes it's unpleasant, even painful. But not remotely something that can counterbalance all the great interactions and great people I have met. Heck, it's doesn't compete even just the kindness complete strangers have given me.

Catch people who do you harm in a different situation, years later and talk about it, and the same people are often reasonable, open to change, open to talk about why they do what they do.

You don't have to forgive them. But for me, it helps.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 9 points 12 hours ago

Gone. Reduced to atoms.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 19 points 14 hours ago

Humanity's potential...yes.

Humanity's actuality...no.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 23 points 15 hours ago
[–] RykardNixon@lemmy.zip 2 points 9 hours ago

In waves. Mostly despair, but then I’ll see some Anarchist shit helping others fight parasitic institutions or decentralization getting a little more traction. Little wins against the oppressors. Renewable energy and batteries getting better and better. People using critical thinking or proper logic.

It just takes an example of the good fight to ignite the kindling within for me. But it’s tough out here.

[–] anon6789@lemmy.world 11 points 13 hours ago

Last year I was feeling really down on people and how the world was going. I signed up for a volunteer gig to get outside and be a little productive.

I mainly expected the work to be satisfying, which it was, but my biggest surprise was how great being around like-minded people that also wanted to make our community better felt.

It feels more like hanging out with friends, even though we're busy as hell, and not like a job because we're all there by choice, and we get to see on a daily basis how our efforts are helping. It may only be a drop in the bucket, but it's not as though we're the only group working for our cause.

It's one of the most satisfying choices I've ever made in my life, and if you can find time (my commitment is 4 hours a week for half the year) it may improve your outlook on things if you're feeling like everything around you is bad.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Absolutely! Turmoil comes in waves, and after each major challenge, we come out a little better than we were.

We've survived worse than this and eventually the world will look back at what was happening now and think, "Sure am glad we aren't like THAT anymore!"

[–] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Hope is a valuable thing, and the feeling of having none isn't something I would wish on anyone. Hold onto your hope tightly.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago

Weird. You saying that made me think.

It doesn't feel like hope. It feels like cold inevitability or statistical probability. Like, some days you hit all green lights, other days they're all red, but at the end of the day, you still did the same shit you do every day.

Everything changes, but somehow it's all the same.

[–] AbouBenAdhem@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago

Humanity? Sure.

Human institutions? Less and less.

[–] cattywampas@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago
[–] actionjbone@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago
[–] Quazatron@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Nah.

The good part is that I won't be around much longer to see it all go to hell in a handbasket.

The bad part is that my kids will.

Sorry about that, kids, I honestly did the best I could.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 0 points 12 hours ago

Technically you could have not had kids. But I get it, I’m in the same boat!

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

I resent how this question implies I ever had faith in humanity.

[–] Quilotoa@lemmy.ca 5 points 13 hours ago

For sure. The people I meet are kind, caring, and responsible. Every time I start to get depressed about humanity, I turn off the internet and go hang with real people.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 14 hours ago

I have faith that it will eat itself

[–] sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 hours ago

There's a couple. Been a long time for everyone else though.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Why would I put my faith in humanity, the most violent and destructive creature in the animal kingdom? There is an ideal beyond the survival animal we are, an imagination of how much better we could be. That's what I put my faith in. That's the kind of world I want to work toward.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

That sounds like having faith in humanity with extra steps. I'm also gonna push back on that "most violent and destructive" part. We're capable of more destruction than any other species, but we are also the only species capable of showing restraint. We've gone 80 years without using a nuclear bomb in war. Your cat would launch a nuke to kill a mouse.

[–] SarahValentine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I didn't want to beg the question so I'll put a fine point on it for the sake of understanding: what I believe in is what I would call "divinity", the ability to imagine something other than the way things are, and strive to make it a reality. Humanity is still coming up and we're doing good in places, but our fate is still dictated by the fearful, ignorant, hateful, and violent among us. We won't be able to reach our potential until those kinds of humans go extinct.

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 3 points 14 hours ago

Can't lose what you never had

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

Humanity is too broad a grouping

[–] LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

https://youtu.be/wTF6ZkLM9eI

Time to give this a watch m8. Never give in.

[–] Cantaloupe@lemmy.fedioasis.cc 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

FYI, it's geoblocked, so if you are outside the US, switch ur VPN over to the USA to watch it.

[–] SGforce@lemmy.ca 3 points 14 hours ago

Humanity isn't the problem, it's the growing concentration of power

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago
[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

As a whole, yes. We've managed to make it this far, and have strived for progress the whole time. On an individual level, absolutely not.

Based on my own experiences and readings, I'd guesstimate that a good 10% of people are genuinely evil, and another 50% are morons. I would absolutely not bet on those odds when trying to get help. Still, that leaves another 40% who are decent enough to want good, and smart enough to act on it.

[–] wabasso@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Do you think those proportions got worse? Or that the severity of evilness or idiocy increased since the past?

I have my doubts. I think the 40% (it’s probably even lower) has taken us this far, and has a chance to continue.

[–] PlzGivHugs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I don't think its changed significantly, but I also do think the impacts (good and bad) have become more far-reaching, and the bad esspecially has become more visible.

We've always had a generally evil ruling class, and that evil always ranged from "just" stealing from the populus to genocide and torturing people for fun (just as today). Unlike historically, we're just aware of all of it, whereas a serf would barely know what their own lord was like, nonetheless one on the other side of the world. We've also always had those willing to work to build a better future. In the past, this was mostly limited to giving food and money, usually organized by religions organizations, and this continues, but we also now have thousands of other non-profits and tools, made and maintained by talented people who just want a better world. Think of all the people making educational videos, articles, software and more and giving it away for cheap or for free. Things like Wikipedia, VLC, and others would have caved to the rich and powerful decades ago if not for the fact that they're committed to making the world better.

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 1 points 14 hours ago

well, I generally think most people are better than me, and I'm still here.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 14 hours ago

Yes.

We haven't made it this far just by sheer luck.

[–] AstralPath@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 hours ago

The humans worth placing your faith in are not the ones calling the shots.

Humanity under capitalism is doomed. The only way we survive is if this AI bubble pops and burns capitalism to the ground with it.

One can hope.