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[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

This post is informative, horrifying, and indeed very, very spoopy.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Its not 100% accurate. Some wasps get trapped, not all. And there exists a fig species that doesn't need wasps

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 21 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

Ah btw, ground coffee literally has ground bugs in it. To the point, that some people get allergic to it.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 17 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Everything we eat has allowable amounts of bugs, it's everwhere.

[–] LorIps@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago (1 children)
[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 2 points 7 hours ago

at some point, we'll probably be eating bug flour on purpose for sustainability reasons

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

When do the bugs enter the coffee, and does me grinding my own coffee change anything?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 9 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Its specifically cockroaches they are talking about and ground coffee. If you grind your own beans and don't see any cockroaches or bugs, then your coffee is roach free.

Humans get allergies to cockroaches really easy. Living in cockroach infested areas will eventually create allergies, people who handle cocraches get allergies, it's not a question of if it's a question of when.

So if you have developed cockroach allergies you risk going into anaphylactic shock if you go anywhere where ground coffee is in the air like a gas station or coffee shop. If you aren't griding your own beans, there is some roach in your bean soup.

[–] Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I've heard cockroach have a smell?

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

No idea, they skeeve me out. Maybe they smell a bit like ground coffee.

I mean I personally haven't smelled one. One of my elementary teachers had a bunch of them though and they do smell. Just never went up to take a whiff.

[–] zod000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago

That's like being allergic to Florida. The more I think about it, that's a healthy body response!

[–] BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

I had no idea allergies or cockroaches worked like that and I was better off beforehand.

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[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 3 points 8 hours ago

False. Wasps don't have souls.

Hornets on the other hand... I'll see you in hell.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 48 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

Most commercially and home grown produced figs are self-pollinating, only a few wild fig species require wasps to pollinate them. So most people will only ever see wasp-free figs.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 9 hours ago

How can people not believe in basic evolution when we have created self-pollinating figs

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Oh thank god.

I know commercial farming is usually terrible, but this bit just seems like a win

[–] polydactyl@lemmy.world 1 points 26 minutes ago

Mostly it’s commercial animal farming that is heinously immoral. The big problems with commercial crop farming is the change to landscape (and therefore ecosystem) and reduction of native species and diversity due to farming of one specific species. These can be mitigated (if humans cared), obviously the animal farming problems too, but the animal cruelty is way more evil, and harder to fix institutionally.

I’m pretty sure about these things, but I am not an expert on these specific matters. Never trust some rando as a source. Always do your own research. And even then be careful….. we live in some weird ass times

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (2 children)

Though i once saw a bug crawl out of a ripe fig, just as i was about to eat it.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago

It was a hell of a surprise when I cut open a peach and the pit was smaller and softer than usual and it split in two in my hands and a little slightly drowsy looking winged ant crawled out of one of the halves and started walking around on the counter. Little guy must have had such a long journey. I don't know how the hell they got INSIDE the pit.

[–] wibble@reddthat.com 8 points 12 hours ago

Better than finding half a bug in the fig after your first mouthful

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 3 points 13 hours ago

Haha yes... Die trash.

[–] Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 20 hours ago (26 children)
[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Idk isn't that like saying all animal pollinated plants are not vegan?

I’m a level five vegan. I don’t eat anything that Casts a shadow

[–] Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

Well, this one’s got a literal animal inside of it… Is all I’m saying

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I guess it depends on if people think roadkill is vegan; the dead wasp is part of the life cycle of the wasp/fig symbiosis so its going to die well before humans intervene.

Imo the argument could be made that by clearing land for vegetables there's a large reduction in habitable natural environments. This results in things dying that normally wouldn't. Especially true when you consider pesticides.

So is the problem the dead bug in the fig or the dead bug outside, say, an apple?

[–] Arachnidbrilliant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

I’ve only been vegan for eight years. I really don’t know what I’m talking about. I’ve never really researched it. I just don’t need animal products. But it seems like eating anything that was an animal or has an animal in it isn’t vegan

Fuck goose down

And I mean, where do we draw the line? There’s microscopic organisms that we kill all the time

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Imo, don't think about it too hard. I think it makes more sense to eat creatures based on a mix of survivorship curve and whether they are intelligent enough to need to be confined.

If you're building infrastructure more to contain animals rather than keep other ones out, imo that's the pivot point.

Idealized survivorship curves:

Type 1 and 2 are easy no's. Type 3 is generally fine as long as its not like an adult turtle or octopus. Type 3 organisms are probably going to get eaten a lot and early in nature while its rare for the adults to get eaten.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This one doesn't either, it's just a ghost.

Eating ghosts is vegan

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (7 children)

I'm a vegan, although not super strict. But I knew some terror vegans who do not consider vigs vegan.

The definition of "vegan" differs. Like, I don't like products that had a nervous system. So technically I could eat oysters. But some vegans consider oranges not to be vegan because there might be an animal product in the pesticides used on oranges. Some claim they only use plant based products, but they get mad when I ask them about fungi, as their cell structure looks more like an animal cell than a plant cell (I love to make terror vegans mad).

Being vegan means you buy products which fit your idea of being vegan.

And sadly for some it means you need to be a fucking asshole to anyone you meet.

[–] flying_sheep@lemmy.ml 14 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

Regarding your last paragraph: that's unrelated. There are also lots of insufferably vocal meat eaters who feel personally attacked when someone else doesn't religiously stuff themselves with meat every meal.

[–] 42beansinapod@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (2 children)

I know zero (0) vocal vegans but 3 meat eaters who make a point on hating vegans and sometimes make it sound like they eat extra meat to spite vegans.

One of them once said to me a restaurant can only be good if it has no vegetarian options.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

Someone has never tried falafel...

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[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 2 points 13 hours ago

Dibs on wasp ghosts as my post hardcore band name!

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