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Or just an apocalypse in general.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

I probably wouldn't

[–] adam_y@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I wouldn't.

These survivalist fantasies where people paint themselves as capable and not fodder...

Hell, you outlast the outbreak/bomb you'll probably die of sepsis the first time you get a bad cut or a tooth that goes rotten.

If it is truly the apocalypse, you are best just letting go, because what follows after is like the end of night out at a club when they turn the lights on.

[–] CarrierLost@infosec.pub 5 points 2 days ago

Same. Tbh, I wouldn’t even want to survive. That’s a shit world in which to live.

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[–] mech@feddit.org 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'd head to the Winchester, have a pint and wait for this whole thing to blow over.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago

Take car. Go to mum's. Kill Phil, grab Liz.

[–] MantisToboggon@lemmy.world 42 points 3 days ago (4 children)
[–] socsa@piefed.social 4 points 2 days ago

This is the answer. Most people won't survive the long term breakdown of society for long, and the "preppers" will probably be some of the first to go, as they will fight each other, become targets, and generally have a more antagonistic approach to survival. The people who stand the best chance will be the ones focused on collaboration and community building. But even then, surviving the initial collapse will be more about luck than intent.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 10 points 3 days ago

I think that one of the major problems isn't even the zombies as such, but the collapse of infrastructure that we rely on to maintain our current populations. Transportation and associated trade. Electrical power. Fuel. Fertilizer.

Like, even if you omitted zombies from the equation and took those away, the population that could be supported is probably a whole lot lower than the present population. Pre-industrial societies were not very populous compared to current ones.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carrying_capacity

The carrying capacity of an ecosystem is the maximum population size of a biological species that can be sustained by that specific environment, given the food, habitat, water, and other resources available. The carrying capacity is defined as the environment's maximal load,[clarification needed] which in population ecology corresponds to the population equilibrium, when the number of deaths in a population equals the number of births (as well as immigration and emigration)

Human carrying capacity is a function of how people live and the technology at their disposal. The two great economic revolutions that marked human history up to 1900—the agricultural and industrial revolutions—greatly increased the Earth's human carrying capacity, allowing human population to grow from 5 to 10 million people in 10,000 BCE to 1.5 billion in 1900.[47] The immense technological improvements of the past 100 years—in applied chemistry, physics, computing, genetic engineering, and more—have further increased Earth's human carrying capacity, at least in the short term. Without the Haber-Bosch process for fixing nitrogen, modern agriculture could not support 8 billion people.[48] Without the Green Revolution of the 1950s and 60s, famine might have culled large numbers of people in poorer countries during the last three decades of the twentieth century.[49]

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago

Not with that attitude you wouldnt

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[–] RustyShackleford@piefed.social 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As I’ve grown older, survival has become a burden. I’ve decided to embrace chaos by traveling in my shark suit and detonating any reactors I encounter. I’ve always been a morally upright person, so I believe I deserve to sought a little chaos in my life.

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Trash Can Man? Donald? Donald Merwin Elbert? Is THAT you?

Ok, he didn't detonate them on purpose

[–] JackiesFridge@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Poorly.

I could last a bit. We have outdoorsy supplies and can do without electricity, but it's probably inevitable I'd just wind down or lose focus once and that'll be that.

[–] helpImTrappedOnline@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Took me a second

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (7 children)

Wizard Island is a 5 hour drive. Deep freshwater lake, surrounded by water on all sides. Fish. In a volcanic crater so any zombies coming have to summit the volcano first, then be visible on the rim before getting to the water, where they sink.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I think that in general, the problem with water barriers is that they work well on humans, who need to breathe. But, depending upon the type of zombie universe in question, zombies may not. They may be able to just walk along the bottom.

EDIT: And one other complication for the zombie apocalypse survivor who wants to set up near large, accessible sources of freshwater:

https://www.stratcom.mil/Portals/8/Documents/FOIA/CONPLAN_8888-11.pdf

HEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES STRATEGIC COMMAND

CDRUSTRATCOM CONPLAN 8888 "COUNTER-ZOMBIE DOMINANCE 30 APR 2011

b. (U) Operational COG #2: Potable water sources (PWS)

i. (U) Zombies do not drink water, but humans do. Humans typically cannot survive longer than 10 days without fresh water. Zombies will likely be drawn to potable water sources by the presence of human food sources that zombies prey on.

[–] IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

My biggest concern would be the zombies contaminating the water with whatever virus/poison/venom that makes zombies. Even if they're visible, the moment they touch water, I'd already be scared to drink.

[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

This is the most solid plan I’ve heard yet

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[–] Iconoclast@feddit.uk 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Highly unlikely that anyone would actually "survive" a zombie apocalypse. It's more a question of how long you'd last, and for the vast majority of people that would be just days.

For example, if you live in a major city, it's highly unlikely you'd have enough supplies at home to wait out the initial chaos. Heading to the supermarket to fist-fight over a can of beans, or going to the gas station, is exactly what everyone else is doing too - and that's where you either get killed by a panicking human or bitten by the infected.

Even if you had the foresight to stock enough supplies to bunker down in your apartment for a few weeks (by far the safest place for you to be), you'd still be trapped inside a city full of the walking dead. The odds could not be more stacked against you.

[–] icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I dunno, I'm pretty sure you'd only have to hold out for the few days it would take for the birds/ants/etc to eat through the major tendons on all the zombies, rendering them immobile, and then you'd be completely safe and the massive clean-up project could begin.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 2 days ago

Unless anything magical/sci fi like in dead island going on i doubt there is enough food to support them for long. My guess is most run out of calories in 2 weeks. Then it gets to manageable levels.

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[–] finalarbiter@piefed.social 16 points 3 days ago

Idk, not sure I really want to live in a post-apocalyptic world. Life is already hard enough as is.

[–] tacotroubles@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

It'd be just my luck that I wouldnt die quickly, being forced to trudge through worse and worse conditions.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 2 days ago

By pretending to be a zombie and hoping I don't run into Jessie Eisenberg.

[–] muxika@piefed.muxika.org 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
  1. Padded riot gear
  2. Bicycle
  3. Halberd
[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Form a citizen militia, go door to door and instruct people to start making spears out of what ever parts we can obtain. Train to fight in a formation.

Picks and shovels, construct earthworks to defend against a siege. Hold them out, funnel them into killing zones.

[–] Postmortal_Pop@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is something that killed walking dead for me. There was a whole thing where they're in the prison and the zombies outside manage to mass up enough that they break the fence. If they took shifts, 4 hrs a day with a spear and head stabbed the zombies they would never have gotten to a critical mass.

Infact, I did the math years ago for my ideal zombie escape zone. It would only take 8 people and a month to effectively eliminate the entire regional population if we move in 4 hour shifts. So baring the entire nearest metropolitan city showing up at once with a psychic level awareness of our presence and a deep need for revenge, all you really need is consistency and a schedule.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 days ago

Yep, and surely most people are capable of killing >1 zombie unless they get pretty unlucky. You can only turn into 1 zombie when you fail.

[–] STUNT_GRANNY@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Driving (and living in) an 18-wheeler, I've got shelter and transportation already sorted. Got all the comforts of home on board. Enough food and water to last a couple weeks, maybe a month if I had to. I can carry enough fuel to drive ~2500 miles if I ditched my trailer, or to run my APU for nearly a year in "standby" mode. Sure, replacing that fuel once it's gone would be tricky, but it's a diesel. There are plenty of alternative fuel sources out there.

I suppose my plan would be to run away from civilization, but off the beaten path so as to not get stuck in the mother of all traffic jams. No need to go that far; a few dozen, maybe a couple hundred miles down a non-interstate highway should be sufficient to avoid most humans/zombies. Plenty of random warehouses and parking lots out in the middle of nowhere.

Then it'd be a matter of relaxing for a few weeks, keeping my head down, and listening to the radio for any news about a safe zone or what have you.

[–] toomanypancakes@piefed.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I would die during the opening credits

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

My goal is to be patient zero. The alpha zombie with the canonically massive hog.

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[–] EvasiveSpecies@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I might survive the zombies by not going outside like a shut-in but then die from something stupid like accidentally tripping over a rock.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

Step 1: anxiously bite nails.
Step 2: infected hangnail.
Step 3: Die.

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

By running faster than the people around me.

[–] muxika@piefed.muxika.org 18 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Cardo or cardon't, there is no cartry.

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[–] a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 days ago (3 children)

But what if the zombies were riding mopeds?

[–] snoons@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Well shit, that'd be fucking cool and maybe I'd want to become a zombie if it means I get to be cool undead cannibals on mopeds.

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 7 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I think about this a lot.

Basically, in any sort of supply disruption cities will become unlivable very quickly.

Everyone thinks they can go camping and fishing. You could only survive like that for a few days - most fisheries cant support thousands of people from the city.

If you dont already live on a farm, your only chance is to find a farm and offer your Labor and help defending it from thieves and refugees in return for food. Dig in and prepare to be over run by desperate refugees in the coming days. Pay special attention to sanitisation. If possible scavenge medication.

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[–] winkly@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

Join the zombies 🧟

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 3 points 2 days ago

Water, shelter, food, security. Everything is viewed through the lens of those priorities, in order.

[–] blockheadjt@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wouldn't. I have an extroverted, anxious child who doesn't know how to be quiet or careful.

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[–] Zarxrax@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I believe it's generally accepted that zombies can't climb, or at least, they are really bad at it. So you basically just need to take the high ground. If you can get up a ladder or something, you would basically be safe and could easily pick off any zombies below with a spear or other ranged weapon.

Long term, I would probably go to the mountains, find a clean water source and plant crops. The mountainous terrain would be a big obstacle and most zombies probably wouldn't even try to go up. For any that do, I could probably set up some traps to lead them off an edge where they would fall back to the bottom.

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