I love how people call it natural when anyone but a human does something.
this post was submitted on 25 Apr 2026
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I must have totally forgotten that I'm a Wolf. I've always thought that I'm a Human. Crazy. Good to know that now. But I want that Friedrich Merz pisses on all of them trees at the German Border, because thats how the natural way to mark ur territory just works. And everything from nature is always the perfect and correct bahaivor for everyone!
Exactly. Wolves are also one of the species that practice infanticide. Clearly there is no point in being better, and we should just replicate everything we see in nature.
Whenever someone makes an appeal to nature, you know you're in for a treat.
I pissed in my neighbor's garden, got his wife pregnant and then ripped apart his newborn with my bare teeth and now my neighbor just wanders in the communal parking lot. At first I felt like the bad guy but I feel a lot better now, because his wife snarls at him whenever he gets close to the house.
Sometimes life surprises you.
Turns out humans like borders too
Good to know that Humans are a Hivemind. Until now I acctually disliked borders. But I am a Human, and you say Humans like Borders. Man thanks for the Warning. I will be working on adapting the Hiveminds Opinion.
"Timberwolf Hivemind" is a damn good band name...
But we DO form similar social structures to that of wolf packs. The majority of human history has been one of tribadism
But it stays an Argument purly on Nature. And someone still needs to explain to me why nature automatically means better.
These are processes that'll just happen organically and those usually have the least upkeep. If something is made artificially it needs to be artificially maintained. I'll be honest, I am personally against borders, I greatly enjoy open borders in the EU but the fact that borders form naturally is a process we'd be aware of. Just like wealth accumulation in capitalism, its a natural conclusion that'd take measures to avoid.
Our entire world couldn't be more far away from what nature once was. And there are just so many "artificial" things that have proven to be better than nature. What I'm saying is that just saying that something is natural really does mean nothing. I can be both, good or bad. It's not like I'm denying nature. Because you said that I need to be aware of it.
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Human communities have borders and territories though
Maybe a different interpretation is that "We may belong to a land but the lands don't belong to us."
Yes we are primitive animals indeed!
At the end of the day, yes we are.
Return to monkey.
Not just any. Bonobos.
It really bothers me when people use "fear" and "respect" interchangeably. This borders on that.
wrong, there are no borders... so this cant border on anything
I know it's just a shitpost but it's so fucking stupid.
It's comparing a home to a country. Like arguing "If you're so against borders, I'll just come into your house at any time." No, fuckface, there's a difference between personal space and (what should be) public land.
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Borders are trees covered in pee.
Sigh Unzip. If that's what I've got to do to carve out some space, then so be it!
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The modern notion of nation States, with clearly defined borders, and mechanisms of violence to enforce them, only arose around the 17th century.
Wolves don't build border walls, have customs checkpoints, or leave refugees to drown in the Mediterranean.
This isn't a "science meme", it's a falacious attempt to cloak reactionary rhetoric in the aesthetic garb of scientific rigor.
Might as well show plant tissues with defined cell walls and say "borders are natural".
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"Sorry sir, we have to deport you back to your impoverished, war-torn country, because wolves pee on trees".
Very compelling.
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Is this meant to be serious?
I hope not, it's pretty pathetic to try and compare animals or packs of animals having territories, with militarized borders and state appointed violence. I don't think that's what the OP is doing, but many other people in these comment absolutely are serious.
Yes but humans are not wolfs. Each behave differently.
Yeah, humans are two wolves. Way different psychology.
We have to feed the good wolf...
Primates also have territories, and chimps, one of our closest relatives, have wars over them.
And they're so much smarter than us, we saw no reason to change such a winning strategy.
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and bonobos, chimpanzee's closest relatives have found evolutionary strategies that work without wars. we have changed our ways of eating and living before, we can again. all we need, as a society, is the imagination to remake ourselves as we have before
There is a study from 2024 that says bonobo chimpanzees can be even more agressive than Gombe chimpanzees
https://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(24)00253-7
Edit; Sync did not play nice with the link.
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You know I've been having trouble with a mean outdoor neighbor cat. Even moose pee didn't scare that fucker away. Maybe I should give myself a uti then go eat some asparagus then go drink some beers and hold it afters so it gets really concentrated and then go let that burning foul probably should have gotten a catheter stream provide an olfactory anti-mean-kitten-defense (but signal to the nice kittens that they are welcome. It will totally work that way somehow) or I can just trap the mean cat, pop out her chip (although these owners...) then either take her to the only-killing shelter or on a midnight drive to see the turbine intakes at the local dam and if she makes her way back she's earned it.
uh...
you okay?
I just like yelling at clouds
They overlap significantly. In addition to what's seen in the image, the wolves' territories will move around due to various conditions. There are no fixed lines that could be likened to states' borders, only vague areas that can be likened to respecting personal space. Compare the wolves' ranges with the white line indicating the national park border also seen in the image, which does not move around based on vibes.
Everybody is against borders until it is what they see as their land that is treaded on.
Pretty sure their borders aren't made up of countries, taxes, and slavery.
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Ok, sounds like we don't have to put so much energy into policing them then.
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The top quote is refering to borders as a state construction. Nobody denies the existence of boundaries between things in general
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