No Stupid Questions

It took decades of fighting to get smoking banned, and if everyone and their uncle didn't have a parent dying of lung cancer, it probably wouldn't have happened.

bribes

basically alcohol gets a pass because its a drug that has been in use since the stone age. Im a big "victimless" crimes person and I would like to see much legalized but I would like them all put into a category where its allowed at home or at licensed establishments and advertising is limited to private residences or at businesses that are in the category. I would restrict the signage for the businesses to. So the brothel, race track, casino, dispensiary, liquor store would look rather non descript from the outside but all would have controlled entry to only allow adults and inside it would likely be filled with ads for other establishments.

We don't, alcohol adverts are just as illegal as tobacco. Of course; that might not be the case everywhere on the planet :P

Bit of a shot in the dark, but seems like cigarette companies have lied in front of congress / courts saying cigarettes are healthy / not bad for you and have been caught red handed in their lies.

Big alcohol hasn't ever done anything that egregious. Everyone knows its not exactly healthy to drink, and Big Alcohol doesn't seem to have ever argued that. I know there's the occasional "a glass of red wine is good for your heart" stuff, but they're also not making any attempt to deny a gallon of wine per day will probably cause cirrhosis, ya know?

Well, there are places where it is illegal. EU for example.

But of course they get around that by advertising their "0.0%" beers etc.

They have better ~~bribers~~ lobbyists

You know when you see an advertisement for a casino, and they have a picture of a guy winning money? That's false advertising, because that happens the least. That's like if you're advertising a hamburger, they could show a guy choking. "This is what happened once."

Mitch Hedberg

Similarly, why are they allowed to advertise every fancy new and half untested medicine out there?

Like, take such and such drug to eliminate pimples, but possible side effects are hair loss, heart attack, brain bleeding, rectal leakage, miscarriage, loss of fingernails and toenails, blah blah...

who tf is we?

One thing you see in the alcohol adds, no one ever actually drinks on screen.

A few reasons.

First, the alcohol industry has been a lot more sensitive to being perceived as selling to kids than the tobacco industry was. Because of it, there was never the push to ban advertising and conduct a mass media effort to control teen drinking as there was teen smoking.

Second, people still remember prohibition in the USA and how it was a failure. So, you've got a lot of people worried about a slippery slope in comparison to tobacco.

Third, the alcohol industry is far better at lobbying around specific items that would actually prevent consumption. For instance, alcoholic beverages don't need to show nutritional information. It will bend in a way that keeps access open.

I spend a lot of time in Ireland and tbh I can't remember the last time I saw an ad for regular alcoholic drinks like beers and whiskeys.. However a lot of these companies skirt around rules, at least here at the moment, by making ads about non alcoholic versions instead. So you see a lot of Guinness 0.0 and Heineken 0.0 etc.

Tbh even that should banned at this stage too.

What's worse though is gambling advertising. I fucking hate that shit so much. Its popularity preys on desperate people and further drives the K shaped economy we are seeing nowadays. Its so fucked up.

Advertising is weaponized pollution. All of it. In any shape or form. It is littering and spreading garbage for profit.

Bill Hicks had an excellent suggestion for those in that industry.

all advertisement is bad. best to avoid all of it. use the fediverse, don't use commercial internet platforms.

The proof that there is only Texas as promised.

(For those that didn’t see the comments about assuming everyone is American. This explains the Texas education system.

Btw no one in Texas calls it “the gulf of America “ we thinks that’s stupid to.

r/USdefaultism

is what I'd say if this were reddit lol

In Russia, alcohol ads are banned. So, beer ads take all the air, rolling their usual, and adding a small fast "nonalcoholic" at the end for their obscure nonalcolohic version no one cares about.

So, effectively, advertising your beer is legal as long as you have a nonalcoholic version.

I think about this with grocery stores. All you want is some cereal and there's a giant aisle of temptation people have to walk through

But we still sell cigarettes and we could still sell alcohol. Just don’t advertise it on tv and such.

As for addiction I disagree (I smoke) I stoped smoking for 2 years before my divorce. I never could stop drinking.

On top of that you (though it’s very difficult mentally” you could go from a pack a day to zero in one day without negative effects. I’ve done it once before.

Alcohol… I decided I needed to quit drinking a well ago, but I have to wait for a bed at a treatment center before I can quite. Otherwise I’ll die…

I think drinking is pretty dangerous.

“No body smoke occasionally “ paraphrasing of course.

Yes they absolutely do. “I only smoke when I drink “ is a very common thing. Lots of people only smoke when they get stressed.

Money. Cigarette ads were justly banned. The Marlboro Man and Joe Camel were iconic brands. The latter was designed specifically to encourage kids to smoke. As a kid, I thought Joe Camel was cool as shit. I didn't want to smoke because of him, but I liked his vibe. (It wasn't lost on me that his head was shaped like a penis; that was an intentional design choice, but he was still a cool dude.) That said, when I turned 18 and I tried smoking, I bought a pack of Camel filters, but that was because it was my mom's brand. I tried like two. Decided it wasn't for me. My mom's only beef was that I bought a hard pack — she always bought soft packs. I never got that. Anyway, she got 18 smokes for free, and even back when they were $1.50 a pack, that was a heck of a deal. (Fortunately she did not make me chain smoke the rest of them. I learned my lesson. Plus, I was 18.)

It is always so weird traveling outside of Norway and see commercials for alcohol.

I've always found it weird that alcohol doesn't have warning labels. At least not where I live. I guess the risks are common knowledge but we can say the same for cigarettes

Alcohol is bad, but smoking is worse.
Smoking is both way more addictive and it is a bigger health risk.
It's rare to be a moderate smoker, generally you either don't smoke at all, or if you do you are a smoker, with numerous health risks.
With alcohol moderate use is the norm, and only excessive use will make you an alcoholic, resulting in numerous health risks.

AFAIK it has only lately become known that even moderate alcohol use is still a health risk. AFAIK mostly causing intestine cancer.
So instead we have campaigns warning against drinking to much, which was also how it started with cigarettes.