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"Norwegian hospitals are free though. I was just surprised the first time I learned Norwegians pay at all to visit the doctor because I assumed we had the same system."

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[–] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

Is this the new pol balls?

[–] Nomorereddit@lemmy.today 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is ridiculous, usa kid wouldnt even acknowledge the other kids exist.

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 5 points 23 hours ago

More like no usa kid at all due to drinking raw milk and skipping the measles vax

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 60 points 1 day ago

Plot twist, the American didn't even hear the conversation. He just showed up violent and obnoxious.

[–] libre_warrior@lemmy.ml 1 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

160 kronars is a lot, its not fair.

[–] Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 16 hours ago

Its about Β£14, honestly not bad compared to most of the world.

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 20 hours ago

About the price of a baguette at Gardermoen?

[–] Melusine@tarte.nuage-libre.fr 33 points 1 day ago (1 children)

In France, we used to be at the top, now I need to wait 6 months to see a lung specialist because we lack of doctor (yeah teaching 3000 doctors per year in the 90's was a brilliant idea), we pay ~30€ and get 19€ refunded for a basic general consultation. If you want more, you need a fucking insurance. I remember spending a night in children ER waiting more than 4 hours to have an asthma attack handled because the hospital was empty. Privatization is the way to speed run turning anything into a fucking disaster.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

Some parties want more privatised healthcare here in Norway as well, so that we could all enjoy more individual agony.

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 66 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] Skullgrid@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

seems a bit steep, but I assume it's to keep it affordable but not used willy nilly

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 48 points 2 days ago (4 children)

We have a system like that in Sweden too. The patient fee differs from region to region and it’s generally quite small. You’re still required to pay it if you book a visit and don’t show up.

I think it is essentially to deter unnecessary visits.

Youth do not pay at all. There’s also a high cost protection so if you end up paying a certain sum, then you’re given a free card and any subsequent costs for that year are nulled. That includes most anything, including medication, but not dental care.

Currently that sum is 1450 crowns, about $150USD.

There is some push to have dental care fall under the same rules.

[–] Drigo@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As a Dane, I beg to differ. I think its essential that it's free to visit the doctor, to not deter necessary visits.

[–] ricecake@sh.itjust.works 1 points 23 hours ago

There's a line, and I don't know where it is. I'd very much rather someone go who didn't need it than the other way, but medical care is to some extent a finite resource that can be over utilized.
Maybe the answer is to incentivise using it correctly instead of penalizing using it incorrectly. Get a check for showing up to or giving proper cancellation notice for all appointments, getting your regular checkups and stuff like that. Appropriate use of whatever we're calling non-emergency walk in clinics. (At least where I am, your doctor has a lead time before appointments, and the emergency room is more geared towards immediate specialized care. The clinics are designed for "let's give that sprained ankle a double check and pop a stich in that gouge". Routine care that shouldn't wait)

[–] Dojan@pawb.social 10 points 1 day ago

I concur. I grew up in poverty and even though the sum isn’t particularly large for me today, thinking of the economic situation I grew up in every little bit counts.

Sure kids don’t pay, but having a sick parent in poverty is not great.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 32 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Just to complete the comic. I'm in the US. I spend about $90 on a regular yearly checkup. Spent $218 to get seen to get something prescribed for a three week cough I had that was getting worse (plus another $68 or so for the meds themselves).

Several of my friends are jealous of my health insurance because I've got the good one that covers more. Please shoot me.

[–] vrek@programming.dev 24 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I called 911 and went to hospital, unable to stand and uncontrollable vomiting black sludge with white specs in it, imagine over-used engine oil with seaseme seeds mixed in. Turns out my liver was leaking into my gi track. 43k bill from hospital, 1200 from ambulance to drive 1 mile, combined 3k from various doctors, 8k for all the tests they ran. Yes all separate bills. I was there for 3 days. That's about a total of 55k in bills for 3 days...

Even if the 25 dollar an hour minimum wage bill passed, and I worked full time for minimum wage with no other expenses(no food, no rent, no gas, no nothing) I still couldn't pay it in a year(yearly pay at 25 an hour is 52k a year).

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[–] thessnake03@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And how much a month is your health insurance?

[–] variablenine@lemmy.blahaj.zone 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 14 points 1 day ago

I want to say $300? I haven't looked in forever since it gets auto deducted from my check. Not like I can reduce it much. That does also include my wife too at least.

Can we shoot those in charge of the absurd prices instead? All you did was luck out, but you’re still one of us.

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[–] Zoot@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

I hate it here so much

[–] LwL@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We tried something like that in germany for a while, then it was deemed ineffective and got reverted. Any flat fee also has the usual issue of disproportionately affecting poor people - 150€ a year (ik you used usd but close enough) isn't a lot for me, but for some people it can be more than they can afford.

[–] ji59@hilariouschaos.com 7 points 1 day ago (3 children)

We have free doctor visits and everyone I know still doesn't want to go there, unless the pain is getting really bad. I would say everyone hates doctor visits.

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[–] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 days ago

Japan could use that. Ambulances are free and so they sometimes get overused because old people call them at the drop of a hat. But I got a tooth filled for οΏ₯1700 (less than 20 USD) so they're doing something right.

[–] Honytawk@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That is about 3x what we pay in Belgium. So much!

[–] InFerNo@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

4 euro remgeld, life is good

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[–] desiccated_event@piefed.blahaj.zone 43 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Health is a commodity. Think about that. Fucking Americans. I live in the US. We have commodified health.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Also in the most communist country, healthcare would be subject to some market forces. Namely: how many sick people you have versus how many doctors you have. You can affect these with central planning somewhat, but not a lot. Unless you kill all the sick people of course.

Free market could fix that if properly applied. Also public health care could fix that if properly applied (i.e. decorrupted, modernized and funded so much that taxes would be amazing).

[–] Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everything has been commodified; housing, food. The line must go up.

Call me when that line is the number of 1%-ers being dragged into the streets and beaten.

It was done long before me or you had any say in it.

Hut yeah its fucked up.

[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 27 points 1 day ago

β€œEuropeans pay for health care. Americans pay for health insurance.”

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

By American standards, I have extremely good health insurance through my wife's workplace. We still have to pay $25 per doctor visit on top of paying every month for the insurance.

[–] Griffus@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Ignorant Norwegian here, but that sounds extremely good for US standards, happy for you for that. Out of curiosity, how much is paid monthly for that? And what would a broken leg and an ambulance to the hospital cost?

[–] ProbablyBaysean@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Ambulance rides cost a minimum of 1k USD. If you are not admitted to the hospital then it is not covered. If you are admitted then all costs ambulance and care normally has a 500$ copay and then you pay 20% or less depending on the insurance.

A broken leg that requires immediate surgery is something to admit. Just a cast is urgent care only, so you probably are S.O.L.

This is based on my experience with multiple insurances, there are tonnes of options, so I'm sure someone else would say it is different for them.

[–] Twipped@l.twipped.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For my family of four I was paying half of $2400 per month (my employer paid the other half) for a very good PPO plan (meaning I could choose my own doctors) that had a $25 copay for doctor visits and no copay for medications after I met the $500 per person pharmacy deductible. That was up until I was laid off, then I had to pay for all of it until my COBRA coverage ended.

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

That is more than I pay in taxes (in Norway). And I have a pretty decent income.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

For a family of 4 insurance is about 3k/month split between employer and employee. The amount that would cost is largely unknowable. My insurance has a $500 deductible, so I would definitely pay at least that much, probably more. After that insurance would cover 80-90% of the cost until an out of pocket maximum, which is 3k/person or 6k/family for me. A final cost around 1k would probably be a good deal, and up to 4-5k could happen depending on out of network fuckery.

[–] Davel23@fedia.io 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

$17.14 USD at the time I checked.

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[–] trd@feddit.nu 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do they not practice "free card" in Norway? if you spend more than 230 American zlotty, the rest is free?

[–] fatalicus@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, something like that.

Things that are counted as emergency is also free.

[–] teegus@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

Kids up to 16 also go for free

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