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As an American who uses the 24-hour time, so many people use 12-hour I basically still use 12-hour.

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[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Only an American would think that the 24-hour clock has anything to do with the military in the first place.

[–] Jo4ted@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

I personally don't associate it with the military, but I'm the exception to that. Lots of people call it "military time" here.

[–] Switorik@sh.itjust.works 98 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Military grade is defined as the lowest quality required to be used by the military, often resulting in the cheapest product that is still suitable for military use.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (5 children)

Not quite. It's anything that meets the minimum for the military. This, for most normal items, means getting the job done and lasting long enough, with an emphasis on low cost and bulk production. The result is "military grade" usually being the absolute worst that still works.

As someone that outdoors a lot, this shit is great for many items. If I base camp, all my water containers are military, and I have 120mm ammo boxes for food and stuff because animals, water, and air can't get in. Heavy and inconvenient as hell, but cheap af and works well—that's military crap for you.

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[–] Zahille7@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I always saw it as "a ton of money is thrown at R-D on this one specific thing to make it do that ken specific thing really well"

[–] cenzorrll@piefed.ca 33 points 6 days ago

Almost, it's "a ton of money is charged for this minimally useful thing made by the lowest bidder"

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[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 58 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I call it “computer time” because I’m tired of people I’m talking with thinking its something to do with the military.

“UTC motherfucker! Do you speak it?!”

[–] cobysev@lemmy.world 29 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

When I was a civilian, everyone called it military time, because only the US military used it.

When I joined the US military, they called it International Time, because the rest of the world used it and we were just meeting international standards so there's no confusion with our global allies.

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[–] Stiggyman@ani.social 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Its just called time.

How many hours does it take the earth to spin? 24? Nah lets split it up into 2 12s because our people can't count higher.. And then lets make it have confusing AM PM tags depending on if its one or the other

Like fuck off you gonna have the 60 mins of the hour also be split into 4 so you dont have to count that high??

24h clock Is the norm

[–] athatet@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 days ago

Can’t count past 12 but somehow fine with AM and PM even tho they are too confusing?

Also breaking up an hour into 15 minute increments does indeed happen.

[–] Jo4ted@lemmy.zip 4 points 4 days ago

I just call it 24-hour. I, too, hate the "military time" name, but it's common here in the states.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 36 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The US military also uses loads of metric things. "Real Americans" won't touch those, either. Apart from 9mm guns and ammo.

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago (3 children)
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[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 45 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

24-hour-clock being a military thing is kind of a USA-thing anyway, in many other countries it's just normal.

I wish there was a more practical way to have an analog 24-hour-clock, a clockface with 24 numbers is kinda hard to read.

[–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 27 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

There is, you have two sets of numbers for each hour marking like this:

or like this:

This requires no change to the time mechanism, so you can pretty easily modify the face of any standard analog clock to be like this.

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

That first one having "24" is making my eye twitch.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 days ago

Having a 0'o'clock is something that delights me to no end. I'm from the US but moved a bit ago and I get unreasonably excited to see my clocks showing all 0s

[–] rumschlumpel@feddit.org 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Not much of an improvement over the standard design. I already know that the clockhand pointing to 1 means that it's either 1 am or 13 o'clock/1 pm, but it still doesn't tell me unambiguously which one it is.

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[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

In Brazil, the 24hr clock is standard for most people.

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[–] x00z@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

12-hour would only be somewhat decent if there wasn't noon/midnight confusion.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (7 children)

If you see a working clock say 12:00 and it's sunny outside and you're not above a certain latitude: it's noon

[–] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

What if someone tells you something is gonna happen at 12?

For example: you can turn in your assignments until 12 tomorrow.

That confusion could lead to you failing your assignment if they meant noon and you thought midnight.

Time is not only for the present, it's for the past and future too. You can't look at the sky in the past/future.

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[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I've used it since I was 12 🤷

[–] sqauffle@slrpnk.net 38 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You mean since you were 0?

[–] brown567@sh.itjust.works 19 points 5 days ago

Didn't get it at first, but scared my cat when I did XD

[–] Darohan@lemmy.zip 11 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Something that's been growing on me, but that I'm still unsure of, is 24-hour time that goes beyond 24 to reference the next day. I was in Japan recently, and there were many restaurants that would write their opening hours as, for example, 18:00 - 25:30, to represent that they are open until 01:30 the next day. Was confusing at first, but makes maths easier and means that intervals of time never count backwards! From memory, OpenStreetMap use this system, too.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Japanese people that understand 24h notation‽ In my experience with language exchange I've always had the issue that language exchange partners didn't understand 24h notation at all!

I also can't remember seeing this notation on opening times in my visits there, but maybe I haven't been paying close attention…

[–] Darohan@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago

This comment is actually really interesting to me, because I was quite excited about all the 24hr time I saw over there, and remember 12hr being used pretty much only in text clearly intended for (english-speaking) foreigners. Not that I doubt your own experience at all, of course, but it did make me wonder where the difference comes from, and also if I'm just going crazy bc you seem to have more experience than I do. Couldn't find anything on regional differences from a cursory search, but FWIW, Wikipedia says that both are used pretty interchangeably, but does have a section on the specific phenomenon I'm talking about

Times past midnight can also be counted past the 24 hour mark, usually when the associated activity spans across midnight. For example, bars or clubs may advertise as being open until "30時" (i.e. 6 am) (See ja:30時間制)

Via https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_and_time_notation_in_Japan

[–] Jo4ted@lemmy.zip 2 points 4 days ago

Sounds sick! I'm in favor of standardizing this.

[–] blackbeans@lemmy.zip 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I believe its roots have more to do with the railways than with the military. I have never called it military time to be honest.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

While trains were the big "clock unifiers" back then, here in Europe, the 24h clock is generally the local version of "time", without the "military" part.

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 1 points 3 days ago

TBF most of us have decent trains.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 19 points 6 days ago

Don't forget the klick. Most of them are not buying that either.

The people in all the countries that have no problem counting off another dozen past twelve don't always do that though. If you meet your friend at 15:00 most people will revert to "at 3" in their language. And they might "go to bed at 11." Economy of language and context clues. So colloquially the am/pm crowd and the 24h folks aren't far apart at all.

And any person claiming that it's too difficult to add or subtract twelve from at maximum a low two-digit integer ought to have their passport revoked.

[–] nieminen@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I'm American, but a software engineer, 24 hour clock for me! Totally understand I'm an outlier.

[–] robocall@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

American consumers will buy anything. Why hasn't anyone developed a military clock for proud American households?

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I be taking naps on accident like once a week. I need to know if I'm waking up at 8am or 8pm

[–] Fmstrat@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Am American, use 24 hour time. It's only called military time here.

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