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[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

I'm guessing "no operators" is implied.

But now I'm wondering if it would be worth it to sacrifice the two leading nines to add "0x" instead and replace all the other "9"s with "F"s

[–] eierschaukeln@kbin.earth 60 points 4 days ago (4 children)

99999...

9^9^9^9^9^9^9...

9!!9!!9!!9!!9...

9↑↑↑↑9↑↑↑↑9↑↑↑↑9

Depends on what is allowed ig

[–] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Small note,

9↑↑↑…↑↑9

Would be ~~near infinitely~~much much much larger than just repeated hexation of 9

(Of course even just 9↑↑↑↑9 is too big to be written in the universe, so all of these numbers are practically a microdose of infinity)

[–] hakase@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's not "near infinitely larger" since there are a finite number of numbers before it and an infinite number after it - it's nowhere close to "near infinitely larger"

[–] TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago

∞ ↑↑↑↑↑... ↑↑↑∞

[–] AnarchoEngineer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip 7 points 3 days ago

I would say it's incomprehensibly larger, though, which is what I took your meaning for in the first place.

[–] RobotFK@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 4 days ago

Infinty is a magnitude, not a number

Also BB(8000) can (proven ) not be represented by ZFC so that might take the cake

[–] Foxfire@pawb.social 8 points 4 days ago

If we get to bring infinity into the mix, how about larger infinite number sets? Aleph-omega time.

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[–] germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 days ago (1 children)

∀R { { ∀[ψ], t: R([ψ],t) ↔ ([ψ] = "xi ∈ xj" ∧ t(xi) ∈ t(xj)) ∨ ([ψ] = "xi = xj" ∧ t(xi) = t(xj)) ∨ ([ψ] = "(¬θ)" ∧ ¬R([θ], t)) ∨ ([ψ] = "(θ∧ξ)" ∧ R([θ], t) ∧ R([ξ], t)) ∨ ([ψ] = "∃xi(θ)" ∧ ∃t′: R([θ], t′)) (where t′ is a copy of t with xi changed) } ⇒ R([ϕ],s) }

[–] azolus@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago

Ah, good ol' Rayo's number. I can fit that in a twitter post!

[–] thiscat@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 4 days ago (4 children)
[–] GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Infinity isn't a number, it's a concept. Some infinities are bigger than others. For example, there's an infinite amount of real values between 0 and 1 but there's an even greater infinite amount of real values between 0 and 2.

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

That Vsauce video really has done some damage, huh

The smallest infinity is the countable infinity. It is the cardinality (think 'size') of the natural numbers (1,2,3,4,...), hence the name.

Unintuitively, the whole numbers (Natural numbers, 0, and Negatives) have the same cardinality. That means you can match up each natural number with a whole number one-to-one. ('there exists a bijective function')

Even stranger, the rationals (-½,1.3,16.6...) also have the same cardinality as the naturals. The proof is a bit more involved, but still not that hard.

Now, what infinity is larger than others, then? This is where we find the Reals (non-terminating decimals, π, e, √2). No matter what you do, you cannot match them up with the naturals. If you're curious about that, look up Cantor's diagonal argument.

But, interestingly enough, the numbers between 0 and 1 have the same cardinality as the Reals! Any interval within the Reals is the same 'size' of infinity as the entire Reals. You can always find a one-to-one correspondence between the two. (For (0,1) and R you could pick tan, for example)

More generally, if you want to produce a 'larger' cardinality from an existing infinite set, you can look at it's power set. That's the set that contains all possible subsets from the original, and always has a larger cardinality than the old one.

[–] jjj@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

May as well go through the proofs:

First, we need to establish that two infinities are equal in cardinality (aka size) if all their elements can be 1:1 mapped to each other.

So, to go from the reals within [0, 1] and [0, 2], we can multiply by 2. This maps every value within [0, 1] to every value within [0, 2], so these are of the same cardinality.

Where things get interesting is the proof that the reals within [0, 1] are of greater cardinality than every integer.

Say we have an arbitrary mapping from every integer to a real within [0, 1]:

0 -> 0.89236…
1 -> 0.47389…
2 -> 0.84776…
3 -> 0.18790…
4 -> 0.90542…
⋮           ⋱

This list contains every integer, but it does not contain every real number because we can always come up with a new one by ensuring at least one digit is different in each existing real:

0 ->  …8… ≠ 9
1 ->   …7… ≠ 8
2 ->    …7… ≠ 8
3 ->     …9… ≠ 0
4 ->      …2… ≠ 3
⋮           ⋱

          0.98803… is not within the list

Therefore, no 1:1 mapping between the integers and reals exists. Because the limiting factor is the amount of integers, the cardinality of the reals is greater than that of the integers.

Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cantor's_diagonal_argument

[–] Malgas@beehaw.org 9 points 4 days ago

there's an infinite amount to real values between 0 and 1 but there's an even greater infinite amount of real values between 0 and 2.

This isn't true. Both of those sets have the same cardinality as the real numbers. Measuring infinities can be weird that way.

They are both strictly larger than the rationals, though.

[–] homura1650@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The cardinal numbers have entered the chat. Along with the ordinal numbers, surreal numbers, extended real numbers, projective extended real numbers, wheels, and Riemenn sphere.

[–] Rugnjr@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago

That's not true, those two infinities are functionally the same. There are bigger infinities than others, or at least higher orders, but those two are the same order.

[–] bravot10@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago

Yes, but in that case it's the same amount. For every real x in the first interval there is a real y=2x in the second. Also for every real y in the second interval there is a real x=y/2 in the first.

[–] BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Infinity" and "number" mean different things in different contexts. In the context of set theory, its perfectly valid to talk about infinite numbers, e.g. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleph_number

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[–] morto@piefed.social 5 points 4 days ago

oo

oh, wrong thread

[–] ora@midwest.social 2 points 4 days ago
[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago
[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

9!!!!!!!!!!![...]

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

False! Create a new number system, base of whatever the chart will accept, then full post of that. :3

[–] N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Just use an existing system FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[–] RobotFK@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why stop at base 16?

ZZZ[...]

Joke’s on you, the FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF was actually written in base 9!!!!!!!!!!!!… and F simply happened to be mapped to the last integer

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[–] brachypelmide@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] Daxter101@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Fuckin loch ness monster

[–] BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

tree(tree(tree(tree(tree(tree(tree(tree(tree(tree(tree(tree(3))))))))))))

[–] itslilith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 days ago

tree() is a different function to TREE()

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I’m unfamiliar, what is BB?

[–] sem@piefed.blahaj.zone 7 points 3 days ago

Busy beaver algorithm. https://wiki.bbchallenge.org/wiki/Busy_Beaver_Functions

Starting definition: the largest number of steps (or shifts) that any Turing machine (of a certain size, and starting with a blank tape) takes before halting.

Computerphile does a good treatment on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE8UhcyJS0I

[–] unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Maybe grade 4 I said something rude or dumb and had to stay in while the whole class went on an adventure and I decided to determine the largest number ever and I wrote '9' on my notebook about 50 times and then the book report and I never did learn, what is the largest ever number

[–] thurstylark@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] BodilessGaze@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)
AEIOU
AEIOU
AEIOU
[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

replace 3 of the nines at the beginning with "10^"

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

I'm no mathematician, but surely replacing every three 9s with 10^ would be larger, right?

[–] degen@midwest.social 1 points 2 days ago

Huh, it's qntm, the author of There Is No Antimemetics Division

[–] atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

11 (base 10 (base Graham's number))

[–] Caitlyynn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 days ago
[–] Bunitonito@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

10 in base infinity I guess?

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