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[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Why not kill rich people to solve poverty?

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Uh, because they're actual people? Besides, their wealth would just be inherited.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There’s a lot fewer rich people to kill than there are poor people. Doing the trolley problem on this means the rich people lose.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 17 hours ago

Do you understand that the trolley problem was more a device for deconstructing ones own morality and reaching the truth of it, than a maxim?

Like, what if instead of saying how many people would die on each track, we listed total net worth, or number of children raped? The winning class looks totally different there, doesn't it?

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Sir, you do understand that I was simply flipping the post to highlight its absurdity? Are you alright?

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Please don't assume he/him just because you're on nu-reddit.

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Please don't assume I don't call all genders sir.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 hours ago

Please don't assume I accept honorifics, gendered or otherwise.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Why not kill and BBQ the rich people to feed to poor people?

[–] Leviathan@lemmy.world 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Disease. The only reason I can think of at this point.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Meh the flames will take care of that.

[–] ironycanal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

You need like 1000 c to fully denature some prions.

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 3 points 19 hours ago

Hmm. You're right. Fuck it just BBQ them anyway then throw them in a pit.

[–] AlphabeticalDisorder@lemmus.org 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

…Well, what style of BBQ are we talkin’ here??

I’m not impoverished but I might colonize a rib or two…

[–] jobbies@lemmy.zip 2 points 19 hours ago

Theres enough multi-billionaires to have them barbequed whatever damned way you please.

We should have a version of that pedo tracker website to locate the financially obese. So you know where you're nearest richo is when you get peckish.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

In progress

[–] spitfire@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Let the hungry eat the rich

[–] davidagain@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

why not kill poor people to solve poverty?

From whom would you then extract wealth and labour?

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.

Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.

Conversely, a mature society would assassinate the poor by ensuring the provision of subsistence is readily available to anyone who needs it, and not gated behind employment.

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[–] mEEGal@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

easier to kill the rich

[–] vivalapivo@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago

Poor is being killed, it's just not that vivid

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Used to be called starting a war. It’s working for Russia but you really need to have a draft/conscription to make it succeed. The wealthy pay a doctor to say they have bone spurs and the poor go die somewhere else. As a plus some wealthy benefit from an overheated military industrial complex

But there are side effects, such as generating more poverty by killing off the main income in families

That worked well enough back in ye olden days, but you don't see it much in the modern world. Winning a war isn't just about having enough people on the front line. It's about what kinds and what quantities of weapons and equipment you can get to people that matters. A tiny country with a small population and an advanced industrial economy will wipe the floor with a country with an army of peasant conscripts 10x as large. Keeping the people in uniform equipped and fed is even more important than actually finding people to put into a uniform.

This matters because every person you send to the front line is another that can't be on the home front working at a munitions plant, or working on a farm, or driving a train to transport war supplies, etc.

Unless your economy already has structural mass unemployment, there's no such thing as a free lunch. Every draftee you throw away into the meat grinder is one more that can't be supporting the war from the home front.

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 7 points 1 day ago

Starting a war only kills certain demographics, namely young poor people, as well as anyone who lives in a place that gets bombed.

Police handle other demographics.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.today 189 points 2 days ago (20 children)

kill a couple billionares and give their wealth to the poor people and they wont be poor anymore and it a lot less killing....

2 or 3 instead of millions, I think that math works out pretty well

[–] Town@lemmy.zip 52 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Why kill them? I would rather they compete on a reality TV show to not get fired from a soul sucking benefitless job at their former corporations.

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[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago

Why not bomb USA to stop what is going on right now?

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

[Serious] Why not Kill the Hoarders to solve poverty?

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 37 points 2 days ago

This is not merely a hypthetical. Vlad Tepes (Yes, The Impailer ) notoriously invited all his poor to a grand feast, instead to kill them all. (I think he burned them alive.) Usually in feudal and early capitalist societies, it was just enough to deny them basic necessities and let them die off, but this often would lead to an outlaw problem as some of the more able poors would turn to banditry and poaching to live.

In liberal societies, just as we don't outlaw people anymore, there are some known good reasons to support low income, disabled and marginalized groups.

One of them is to cut off or discontinue the outlaw-to-professional-criminal pipeline. People who are forced to work but cannot for some reason will resort to poaching, banditry, fraud or any number of extralegal revenue-enhancement tactics. Criminal syndicates such as the Crips and the Bloods pull their numbers from demographics that are given no other choice by the society they live in.

Another reason the state might support it's low-income demographics is in recognition that capitalist societies teem with social roles and efforts that contribute value to the society without compensation. Parenting is the primary one.

In fact, in the US, as social programs for low-income households have been defunded or rendered inaccessible (such as SNAP and Medicaid), millennials and zoomers are now choosing not to have children, and avoiding romantic relationships, so that the fertility rate is well below the replacement level 2.1 children. We're not just not having kids, we're not having sex.

Also, thanks to deregulation, and the failure of wages to keep up with inflation, a lot of the US is under-compensated. Much of the poor population in the US have jobs, but they're not being paid a living wage. Infamously, Walmart workers still have to rely on SNAP benefits and Medicaid because their wages are not enough to afford a sustainable living. They still count as poor, and would be swept up if ICE were to start going after poor Americans. And then Walmart would find they have fewer applicants, and might have to offer better wages and benefits. (This happened after the great resignation when workers furloughed during the COVID-19 lockdown found they could monetize their home hobby, or just didn't want their shit job anymore.)

But this isn't to say these uncompensated or under-compensated people are useless or not contributing to society, just that what they do isn't recognized by the system that rewards value with compensation.

Curiously, our political class and our ownership class both imagine they could dispose of the poor without ill effects, even as they directly depend upon those people to parent, to maintain homes, to organize communities and yes, even sometimes to do basic labor. At the same time, they're also the ones screeching about how American women are not having enough (white male) babies.

Just as the US is suffering a shortage of farm hands to harvest crops, thanks to the persecution of immigrant workers, when we deny benefits and services to low-income houses, we'll find that other work we depend on will cease to be done. And that will be accompanied by a new wave of organized crime... or maybe organized resistance against a state that has turned violent against them.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 87 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Like the Tories did in the UK

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[–] greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Do people have worth beyond the work they do?

Yes, obviously

[–] Allero@lemmy.today 75 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[serious] because the very existence of the rich and poor means there are systems creating inequality.

Should you kill the poor, the next poorest group will be sucked of their money and will become poor.

The problem is not the poor, it's the system that creates poverty.

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[–] Phantaloons@piefed.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's what the prison system is for.

[–] marzhall@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

And you get bonus slavery until they die

[–] errer@lemmy.world 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Nobody ever asks him about this, and he never responds to posts about it. Same for his begging to go to the island. He'll pipe up on everything else nobody asked him about, but not those two subjects.

[–] GhostFace@lemmy.today 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

That has to be a bot post, right?

Who could actually be inhumane enough to just put that thought out there?

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 8 points 1 day ago

You'd be amazed at the amount of poor people who deeply believe in rich people propaganda

[–] seejur@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

Magas. The ultimate fuck you got mine (until someone get theirs instead)

[–] bridgeburner@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

Billionaires

[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

There's a miniscule chance it's intentional irony based on Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal, in which Swift proposes easing babies to solve the Irish famine.

Buy probably just a dickbag.

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[–] Astronut@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Then the middle class would be the poor class so we kill them and so on?

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[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 2 days ago (1 children)

[serious] Why not kill the richest people to make the poor people not poor?

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