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[–] bss03@infosec.pub 5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

ISTR in the U.S. the ACLU has won at least some sex-discrimination cases and thus overturned some anti-female-nipple laws. For example, I believe in NY state, women can go topless anywhere men can.

EDIT: More details and actual sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topfreedom

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Depends on how you present and how your boobs look. If you appear more masculine, you can show nips on anything up to moobs, but not perky boobs. If you appear more feminine, you can't show any nips at all regardless of boob shape.

[–] rain_worl@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago
[–] mech@feddit.org 99 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

I remember reading about a trans woman who uploaded a daily topless pic to ~~Twitter~~ Instagram during her transition, and celebrated when it was deleted for the first time.

[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] mech@feddit.org 2 points 2 hours ago

Gender affirmation can come in unexpected ways.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 13 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Malyca@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

Lol this is great

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's amazing, I'm curious how long it took?

[–] mech@feddit.org 43 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Thanks, this is such an interesting read. I'm currently 1 year and 2 months on E (so one month short of her benchmark), but I don't feel like I've progressed enough. Maybe I'm gaslighting myself and in denial of my progress (because my hormone levels were 4x as low as what they should've been, due to using spray), but oh well.

The story reminds me of those trans women protesting in the UK where some taped off their boobs and others went topless. Some newspapers censored them, others didn't.

[–] Beehaw_Girl@beehaw.org 9 points 1 day ago

Aw of course all we get is a long article full of words with a couple cryptic photos instead of a quick pictorial slideshow.

[–] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 3 points 1 day ago

I thought it was Instagram, so maybe it was both?

[–] DaGeek247@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

Lmao whoops. Technically NSFW there. Gonna have to read it after work.

Anecdote time!

My spouse and I are both trans, although we bother were in the closet and while I wouldn't say I've ever been "conservative" I have definitely had some weird holdovers from growing up in a religious household.

I used to be very "Nobody else is allowed to see your nipples" in thought although I would never tell them to "cover up" no matter what I thought, as it's their own body, not mine. Once they settled on NB, I was like "oh yeah then it's fine... Wait why is it fine now but not yesterday" which was a fun bit of self-reflection lmao

Personally I think it shouldn't matter and people need to get over the fact that, gasp most people have nipples, and gasp most of them are shaped differently, some more than others.

Free the nips.

[–] Deme@sopuli.xyz 57 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Woman nips should be censored by covering them with man nips

[–] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 day ago

They kinda did that back in 2016 as a way to show the proper methods to home screening for breast cancer (link is mildly NSFW).

[–] manxu@piefed.social 53 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The way things are going, it's starting to look like:

  1. Man nips allowed
  2. Woman nips not allowed
  3. Nonbinary not allowed

Nah it's even dumber than that. For us nonbinary peeps it often just depends on if you look "enough like a woman" for whoever is doing the review. Yet another place where nonbinary gets treated as just "woman-lite" by people.

Suggested Addendum: nonbinary not allowed *so long as the NB currently has a-cup+ breasts and pronounced nipples.

The people who tend to have issues with nips are usually the kind to not care about flat chests, regardless of why that chest is flat (natural flatness or top surgery)

I say free them all. Stop getting hung up on who has boobs, nipples, flat, pronounced, who cares everyone has them and we all know what boobs look like. If you want to go topless, you should be allowed.

[–] SchadeMarmelade@feddit.org 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One nipple per person should be allowed. Seems like a good compromise, no?

[–] Beehaw_Girl@beehaw.org 7 points 1 day ago

But what if one woman nipple makes someone too horny and the horny police come knocking on someone's door? This is why we have laws! /s

[–] Zagorath@quokk.au 24 points 1 day ago

^?^~ᴗ~^?^

[–] TheFresh16@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Free the nipple for all!

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Throw a d6, if it scores below 4 you may show, but only on even days, otherwise not. If it scores 4 or higher, you may not show unless if your roommate(s) bang with you. Socks must be kept on.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 hours ago

i think we should go with petrol rationing rules: which day of the week you're allowed to show nips is decided by the last digit of your license plate

[–] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure woman nips are allowed, it's just the boobs that are problematic

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 5 hours ago

Everyone has boobs, the mass just differs. I'm not stacked enough yet, but aim to be a legal issue when I'm topless.

(Though, that makes one wonder. If in certain reactionary US states a trans gal isn't recognised as a woman, are they allowed to go topless, while cis women aren't?).

[–] Staden_@pawb.social 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If that was the case women with flat chests would be allowed to be topless in public

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 6 hours ago

i would say it's at least more accepted, to be fair

[–] N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

It’s not a problem if you can see boobs through clothing, but in some cultures it is if you can see nipples through clothing.

[–] fonix232@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Non-binary? Then it's nip-nope's for you - that is, you need to proceed to window 19G and hand over your nipples. Refusal will be met with swift law enforcement action.

[–] smh@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago

tbh, I've been tempted to have a nipple-ectomy. They're just annoying to deal with.

Then my chest will be socially acceptable viewing material no matter my cup size and gender presentation, right?

[–] bitteroldcoot@piefed.social -4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Well, women’s actually work. Men’s are just decorative.

Also men’s also used to be banned. I think it was 1937 they could first go topless.

[–] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Men’s are just decorative.

Nonsense. You'll have to take some prolactin supplements, but then those babies will work right as rain.

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You tellin' me that just being on estrogen won't make me milk myself?? Fuck, there go my plans for a self-milk factory.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can manually induce lactation if doing so chemically isn't to your tastes

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Not that I have a problem with chemicals (obviously), but...

How would one do that manually?

[–] N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

Suck/pump. Starting with 5 minutes three times a day if I recount correctly.

What happens during pregnancy seems to be high levels of estrogen and progesterone, which increase prolactin levels and inhibit lactation. Followed by a drop of estrogen and progesterone levels, but prolactin staying high for some time and lactation starts. The baby sucking then results in more prolactin being released.

[–] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Huh. Fascinating.

Does it work regardless of horomones or does it require estrogen, progesterone, etc?

[–] N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 20 hours ago

I edited my previous post.

The three times a day is actually for pregnant women to induce it early. There are drugs who can directly increase prolactin. But it sounds like increasing estrogen and progesterone for some time is the most used way, since that can be done with birth control pills.

Prolactin has side effects:

Elevated levels of prolactin decrease the levels of sex hormones—estrogen in women and testosterone in men.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prolactin#In_humans

Prolactin is also part of the mix that results in the male refractory period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refractory_period_(sex)

[–] programmer_belch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Viagra would be another good way to start that self-milk factory

[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Viagra contains prolactin?

[–] N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

No, a different kind of "milking" is meant

[–] N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

But does it? I actually wondered recently.

It sounded like lactation would be blocked by other hormones. Or was that just about increasing prolactin production?

Taking it continuously might work, but inducing it sounded hopeless.

Well, women’s actually work. Men’s are just decorative.

What does that have to do with censoring? Should we censor their eyes and legs, too?

[–] N0tTr0xy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago

Both work afaik

[–] Beehaw_Girl@beehaw.org 3 points 1 day ago

And there were probably glorious days long before 1937 when everyone could walk around naked in suitable climates & weather with no problem.