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[–] DigDoug@lemmy.world 124 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Is that code for "Rerelease Skyrim again"?

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 39 points 3 weeks ago

I mean fuck, better than what they've been doing.

[–] CubitOom@infosec.pub 24 points 3 weeks ago

Its code for more horse armour and online services that they can milk for years

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 18 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I mean if they did the Oblivion Remastered with Skyrim, that's easy fucking money.

Or even Fallout 3 & 4.

[–] theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world 19 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly I'd be alright with fallout 3 remastered

[–] fartsparkles@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That’s what you’re going to get.

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly, I'd be alright with $10,000

[–] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

That's what you're going to get!

[–] TachyonTele_Esq@piefed.social 12 points 3 weeks ago

I like this game

[–] Big_Boss_77@fedinsfw.app 7 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Your username made me want to smoke a brisket and watch Cowboy Bebop...thanks for setting my weekend plans for me!

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[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Fuck no, not that. UE5 looks horrible, and most of the NPC's in the Oblivion remaster look lile skinwalkers

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[–] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

As far as I know a Remaster of Fallout 3 is planned actually.

[–] Kn1ghtDigital@lemmy.zip 96 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

NGL I don't have a lot of faith in Bethesda to actually create quality anymore. The image for this is for Vegas, which was more obsidian's work, and they did it in a fraction of time, I think?

[–] Bluefruit@lemmy.world 24 points 3 weeks ago

Yea it was a very short window for development, 18 months: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas

[–] iamthetot@piefed.ca 21 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm a huge Elder Scrolls fan. I met my partner on Elder Scrolls Online. I have pretty much zero faith in Elder Scrolls VI being any good.

[–] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

I mean ESO was developed by ZeniMax. Perhaps it would be best to let them handle Bethesda‘s franchises directly and disband their subsidiary. I suspect Bethesda has suffered too much from toxic positivity.

[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Depends how you look at it. Obsidian was more like a modding team than a game development team for New Vegas. They had the engine and all mechanics ready to use. All they had to do was minor tweaks and new content. So essentially modding, not developing a game.

Arguably, most of 'game development' these days is more akin to 'modding' from 10+ years ago, so the terms kind of lose their meaning. But New Vegas was made in 2008-2010, so I think it fits.

As we can see years later, games made by Obsidian from scratch aren't nearly as good. Perhaps what made New Vegas great was the mix of Bethesda and Obsidian. Or maybe Obsidian just lost their edge, like most studios, sadly.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (10 children)

I'm not a CEO or anything but maybe they should try making an elder scrolls more than once every 20 years.

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But making games costs money. Corporations are supposed to make money for their shareholders, not spend it!

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

someone should have told them that before Starfield.

[–] ampersandrew@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Starfield almost certainly made a boatload of money.

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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 44 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

What else have they been busy with? Just Starfield?

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 35 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (12 children)

Seriously, it isn't like Bethesda has a long list of IP to work with here.

Other than Elder Scrolls and Fallout (which they should already be assumed to be focusing on to begin with), the only other IPs that are still alive would be DOOM and maybe Wolfenstein,

Dishonored is dead, Quake is dead, they shuttered Tango so no continuation of Hi-Fi Rush or Ghostwire, RAGE is dead.

[–] mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Unfortunately, Bethesda decided to spend all their time working on Starfield. The only thing they had when they revealed the ES6 trailer, was the video. And that's because they knew they'd get lynched if they didn't annoubce ES6

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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

Thanks I suppose I forgot about Doom. So, he meant they shouldn't focus on Doom lol.

[–] VitoRobles@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Oh is it Bethesda and ID software now? I didn't know they merged. I knew ID software helped with Starfield, but I thought they were still separate.

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 15 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

The Bethesda-id software-ZeniMax shit is so confusing, especially since Microsoft acquired Zenimax, and by extension Bethesda and id, in 2021.

They are "technically" separate but Bethesda is still the primary publisher of id software's games, and thus they do fall under their umbrella.

[–] addie@feddit.uk 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Asha Sharma had this statement, in amongst the rest of it. As per Ars Technica:

Some decisions in the gaming division currently pass through “14 layers” of decision-makers, Sharma said, before promising that the new Xbox will be a “flatter organization” with “no more than 5, and where possible, 3” layers of management involved in any decision.

You'd have to think that it's this shit that she's pointing at. Massively excessive management certainly helps with all the design-by-committee cookie-cutter crap that's filled with monetisation. Alas, they've just got rid of the really interesting studios that I'd like to see spread their wings a little.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

TES6 for sure and possibly a new Fallout, if rumors are true. Also don't Bethesda handle Doom, now? There's gonna be a DLC to Dark Age coming out tomorrow.

[–] edgemaster72@lemmy.world 14 points 3 weeks ago

id develops Doom, Bethesda is the publisher, both of which are owned by ZeniMax, itself owned by Micro$lop under the Xbox division

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

Also don’t Bethesda handle Doom, now?

No, id Software is the developer company, ~~which is owned by the publisher~~ and published by Bethesda Softworks, both of which are owned by ZeniMax. The "Bethesda" that does actual game development is called Bethesda Game Studios; they handle franchises like Fallout and TES.

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[–] ms_lane@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Skyrim > 4 years > Fallout 4 > 4 Years > Fallout 76 (yes, it was Todd's team that made the map and original quests) > 4+1 years > Starfield

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Likely ES6, and the DLC for Starfield.

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[–] Abyssian@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yes, it's always a wonderful idea for creative game companies to stop being creative and trying to come up with cool new things and instead focus on things that have sold well in the past to please the shareholders.

That always works out for everyone.

[–] kureta@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 weeks ago

Well, so f as r it worked really well for Bethesda. They sold Skyrim 10 times to everyone.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

Yeah let's focus on our franchises like Doom and Quake -- by firing half the staff at id.

Sony is on fire, Microsoft is on fire, Nintendo seems to be doing fine by focusing on brands and profit-first hardware; Valve is doing its own thing...Where did everyone else go so wrong?

[–] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

$500 million budgets probably. Things are different now. Video games aren't a form of art or interactive storytelling or anything creative. They're simply made to make a profit, that's it. Anything else is just a useful side effect. That's why indie games hit different. People with stories to tell instead of dollars to make. Movies are the same way too.

[–] aksdb@lemmy.world 7 points 3 weeks ago

Looks like those that do badly are those that went on an acquisition spree over the last years.

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 weeks ago

Big money and MBA guys running the show is where it went wrong

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[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Good luck Bethesda, even Obsidian has hit an 18 carat run of bad luck. I guess they'll stay afloat due to casual players and the fact that its an elderschrolls game. But count me the fuck out on getting es6, that shit will need to be fucking amazing for me to pay the AAA price it will inevitability be, and I mean AMAZING cause after fallout 4 I've been disappointed with them. God I wanna be wrong Tod, PLEASE TOD PROVE ME WRONG 😭

[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 28 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You dont need to worry about ES7, with the amount of time ES6 is taking, ES7 wont be within out lifetimes

[–] TheGreenWizard@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 weeks ago

Lmao, my dumbass meant es6

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah... Todd and Emil... are gonna have to... actually make something good.

For the first time in a decade.

Right so like Asha's statement said that no publically announced games have been cancelled.

... Does Elder Scrolls 6 ... actually count as publically announced?

Its never had a release date or window, its only ever had one trailer, basically just a panning landscape shot...

FallOut 5 certainly isn't any kind of actually 'publically announced'.

Yeah I can see enough wiggle room there that Asha can basically be a fascist and just straight up tell Todd and Emil exactly what to do, and threaten to fire them if they don't.

Also just... as a former MSFT employee... I do not have enough lols to type in response to 'we're going to make sure there are no more than 5 layers of management, and also having a COO is probably a good idea'.

Yeah. Yep. I ... actually just straight up agree with that one, yep.

Too bad expressing such sentiments a decade ago wasn't exactly uh, well reviewed by my superiors at the time, oh well, cest la vie.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

The morale must be great.

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