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I assume one becomes a chef because they have a love for cooking and food and the artistry involved, but I can't think of anything more eroding to that love of the craft than the kind of working day I see chefs and other kitchen staff go through. It seems to an outsider like me that it's basically a shift-length panic attack, every day. But that can't be the case, or no one would do the job!

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[–] TheStaffmaster@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

No. That's like wanting to be a doctor and having to work on call at the ER. they are dues and need to be paid.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 2 hours ago

is it every aspiring game developers dream to work in a hectic, high-stress office? Being the best or just in the ranks of the best is a big draw in art.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

I work at an events company, basically, in the back office but have worked some events - I get the appeal. Hospitality is grueling work but satisfying work, your customers are right in front of you and you are making them feel better about themselves (in our particular industry), or feeding them and also just pulling off such a ridiculously difficult task, nearly everything going right, it's amazing. And when I did work at a restaurant, I also enjoyed being part of the customers' going out night, right? You are there, building that experience, also getting an experience.

My husband doesn't get it really but I do - if I had fuck you money I would open a bar, with a dinner night each week as an event.

I enjoy home cooking and hosting parties too. Hospitality really is a human sort of endeavor and it is satisfying to make people feel good and comfortable.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I assume one become a chef because they have a love for food and cooking and the artistry involved.

Bwahahahahahahaahahahahzhahahhahah

Deep breath.. no seriously

Hahahahahahahahah

One becomes a chef because you need a pay check. All that shit about the artistry of cooking is marketing bullshit.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 1 points 51 minutes ago

People go to school for it because it's what they want to do with their lives. It's not like most chefs are wealthy.

[–] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Imagine straddling the line between performing at your absolute best, pushed to the limit of your abilities, and living in a complete horror show of a shift. All your cylinders are firing, your brain is running 110%, your body is alive. It is up to you, and the crew you trained, to impose order onto chaos by performing a complex symphony of actions in a tightly coordinated team.

Yes, tensions are high, but everyone is digging in, summoning their grit, and working together to tackle any upset in the highly demanding flow of food. There is laughing, cursing, anger, worry, joy, comradery. It's a high drama marathon that challenges you, makes you perform at your best every day. You know the complete despair and panic when it falls apart and you know the sweet satisfaction as the rush dies down and you and your team did it, against all odds, once again.

When you look out the window and see the hordes of people eagerly awaiting to enjoy a great meal with their friends and family and you look over at the people already served and see the absolute bliss on their faces as they dig in...

You. You made that happen.

[–] CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Sounds like mental illness

[–] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

It is, but it's the functional kind. And the landlord doesn't give a fuck about your problems so you got turn life's lemons into lemon pepper chicken to pay that rent.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

You just described literal hell.

[–] MrOtingocni@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Oh it is. But there's drugs and trauma-bonding, so that helps. Plus, it pays a few more bucks than minimum wage.

It also conveys a permanent +10 bonus to your rizz so you can sleep with the slutty front of house.

Somewhere between the borders of desperation and total burnout there is a sweet spot where you realize you are performing at a higher level than you ever have, higher than most ever will, and the satisfaction compensates for the lack of pay and the life destroying vices you need to employ in order to cope with the constant stress.

Good times.

[–] Sophocles@infosec.pub 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I left IT to become a chef and this was one of the reasons (of many) I did so. I absolutely hated the office environment; being cooped up in a tiny office, the dumb high school drama, sitting at a desk wasing time on projects that had no real value to anyone but a corporation... I was miserable, even despite the ok pay and lack of manual labor.

I work in a high profile kitchen now and I couldn't be happier. The fast pace and constant movement is definitely a lot of work and stress but it's so much more fun than mashing a keyboard in a soulless corporate prison. Plus I sometimes get to see the people enjoying the food, and it just seems a lot more personal and worth it than IT ever did. I guess it really depends on your personality and how well you handle and/or like pressure among other things

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 2 points 1 hour ago

I’m a web developer but my background is in fast food and retail and I absolutely miss the chaos. I sure felt the fuck out of:

wasing time on projects that had no real value to anyone but a corporation...

I love my job and I love what I do but at the end of the day I often think “now what?” and realize I’ve spent an entire day in a make believe land.

[–] python@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I don't work in the food industry, but I do have the flavor of ADHD that would absolutely LOVE the work environment. There really is a special kind of zen you achieve when everything is on fire and you have to think on your feet all day. Plus the working times are fucked up and your diet consists of cigarettes, energy drinks and coke. That might not sound like an upside but if your life already is like that it really must be quite nice to have a job that conforms to it.

[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 5 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

ADHD
energy drinks and coke

Don't they put people with ADHD to sleep?

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago (2 children)
[–] zurohki@aussie.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

A lot of people with ADHD, stimulants make your brain's brakes start working.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, stimulants slow down an ADHD brain. When I tried out drugs a couple decades before being diagnosed cocaine was weird for me because everyone else who used it acted like I felt all the time while I calmed down and felt chill like everyone else did when they smoked weed.

Telling a doctor this helped when getting diagnosed.

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Being on Lemmy, I've started to notice how little I know about conditions I've had my whole life. I guess I simply got the diagnosis and then that was it, for whatever reason didn't really feel much interest in reading about it.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It might be different depending on when you get diagnosed. For me getting diagnosed in my 30s it was like seeing my entire life experience validated and that came with things I could do to mitigate the downsides.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

Not necessarily, people react differently to different stimulants. For me, coffee calms down my mind but makes my body feel perky. Others do get sleepy with it.

The only and only time I tried cocaine is how I eventually found out I had ADHD. it definitely didn’t do anything to make me want to party - I could think straight and wanted to go somewhere quiet to enjoy the mental quiet.

[–] Ioughttamow@fedia.io 2 points 5 hours ago

My late diagnosis sure explained why I thought energy drinks didn’t do shit

[–] python@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Yeah, for many people they do that! But if your brain is in absolute overdrive by nature it's actually a performance boost to slow it down to a point where you have proper control over it.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

I have ADHD (actually diagnosed, in childhood) and coffee doesn't put me to sleep, much to the contrary. A little amount wakes me properly.

There are different types of ADHD so it might be why.

[–] Stern@lemmy.world 32 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

There's certainly stuff like The Bear or Hell's Kitchen that present one view of things, but you might want to give Jiro Dreams of Sushi a watch sometime, which shows a alternate view. Guy runs a ten seat Michelin starred sushi joint that does a ~500 dollar tasting menu with 20 courses. He's not rushing things.

[–] kbobabob@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago

Did the staff all start their careers working there? This seems like a top tier kitchen.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

Not the field you're talking about, but I worked in television news broadcasting for a while, and yes, the goal was absolutely to get a job at a bigger station with more news and thus more work and faster pace.

Our production manager used to try to train us for the bigger markets as well, he described it as making sure the team could "think on their feet" and deal with unexpected scenarios calmly and quickly.

So at least in that industry, yes, the goal is to end up in a more high stress workplace.

Believe it or not, some people actually really thrive in high-stress environments and do terribly in low-stress environments because it's simply not exciting enough to keep them engaged with the work.

[–] Tujio@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

I hate to admit it, but at this point I think I have to. I thrive in a high-stress, high-energy work environment. I've worked a few low-impact jobs and I just turn into a lazy schlub. Hell, a couple times I've noticed that I'm letting myself get stressed out just so I can actually accomplish stuff.

Which is weird, because outside of work I'm just a happy, lazy dude. Code switching is a hell of a drug, I guess.

[–] kiwifoxtrot@lemmy.world 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

There's a lot of truth to the fact that stress makes a job engaging and rewarding. For me, that level of stress makes me do a better job. Without it, I get bored, have no drive, and disengage. I've learned this about myself over the years and purposely make sure I'm in roles that have higher stress so that I can be happy with what I'm doing for a living.

[–] ickplant@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

This is quite common for people with ADHD (not saying you have it). They need novelty and excitement to thrive, otherwise they get bored. So that’s one example of a person who might want these stressful jobs.

[–] FriendOfDeSoto@startrek.website 7 points 10 hours ago

Probably not. And they find jobs in calmer setups or they get out of the kitchen. But for the rest, that isn't a deal breaker. If that's what you want to do then that's a likely way to have to do it.

The somewhat military order in a professional kitchen is by design. Order is important. I've gone through weeks of training in a fine dining kitchen and having worked in hotels I could look into busy kitchens from the sideline. Culture plays a big part. You can have a busy orderly kitchen without too much shouting and people not hating each other at the end of service.

A lot of the drama that happens between people, if it isn't stress, is the fact that advancement options are limited. The higher up you get in the hierarchy, the fewer jobs will be available to you.