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[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 140 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Are they trying to say that NFTs are some kind of bullshit scam that should have dissolved into the ether like the crypto bro's cocaine-fueled manic state that spawned them in the first place? How shocking and unpredictable.

[–] 2tone@lemmy.world 61 points 1 year ago (3 children)

What do you mean? You didnt go out and spend all your money on reproducable jpegs? Whats wrong with you?

[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

reproducable jpegs? Excuse me?

I live walking distance from my local police department. If another person uses my NFT without my consent I will report them immediately. This is MY PROPERTY. The transaction has be verified scientifically on the block chain. Anyone who violates my NFT rights will pay the price.

Buddy, you have no idea who you are messing with. I have made a ridiculous amount of money in crypto/NFTs and I have the best lawyers. If you don’t delete those stolen jpegs, you’re going to regret it. When you steal someone’s property you get punished. Watch out.

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Stares in Poe's Law.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mortgaged my house for a computer-generated ape that my son's cousin's uncle's neighbor's mailman said would one day finance my retirement.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

It will, it will. Any day now, you’ll see! My kid told me the same thing, and his favorite streamer wouldn’t just say anything for money, would he?

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[–] frezik@midwest.social 12 points 1 year ago

So the guy on Reddit who told me I better get with the NFT game or be left behind in a year was full of shit?

[–] JungleGeorge@kbin.social 103 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The whole "web3" bs has always just been a shabby scam, and people fell for it

[–] sab@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Did they though? It might be my filter bubble, but whenever I saw web3 being pushed I saw a small refraction of responses of people who also thought it was a great idea (typical salesbros - so a good idea for others to do, just not for themselves). But the vast majority of people reject it for being a scam.

So how many people fell for it, really?

[–] trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Did the average person/average internet user fall for it? No.

Did the people who fell for it get sucked into what was basically a cult that sucked the money out of a decent amount of people? Yeah.

The numbers for some of these scam projects were honestly insane.

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[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

More than 0, which is all the comment said.

[–] sab@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If we're just going for semantics, don't you mean more than 1 for them to qualify as "people"?

[–] GentlemanLoser@ttrpg.network 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] sab@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 40 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I thought the whole point of NFTs and the blockchain is that it's decentralized, and you can use "smart contracts" for things like this. How is one company able to decide to change it?

[–] PopularUsername@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Apparently, smart contracts are not contracts at all... they are friendly suggestions. Unsurprisingly a contract needs a mechanism to enforce it, which makes decentralized contracts redundant at best (as you still need institutions outside of the blockchain to monitor and enforce the contracts), and or worse, completely useless if there is no legal way to enforce them.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The idea behind smart contracts is that they contain code to verify that the contract is fulfilled (that’s the “smart” part of the name).

This of course also means that you can only use it for stuff that happens on the same blockchain, because the contract can’t verify anything outside of that.

Which is why this isn’t relevant for the real world, it’s just eating its own tail.

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[–] June@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They can only change it for their instance, but they can’t impact all NFT marketplaces. This is only significant because this company is the largest broker so it will impact more people.

Anyone can set up their own blockchain and build it however they want. Hell, they could make it centralized even.

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[–] Jaysyn@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Fortunately, nothing of actual value was lost. Just fools being parted from their money.

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[–] Eranziel@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's broken now? I'd say that's a bold assumption that it ever worked in the first place.

Edit: to be clear, I mean that it is and always has been an impossible problem. The only reason it ever worked is because some broker company wanted it as a feature, not because anything compelled them to give original artists a cut. And that's before you consider the question, "but how do you know the NFT was made by the original artist?"

[–] GenBlob@lemm.ee 34 points 1 year ago (1 children)

How is this Web3 scam still a thing? I thought I would finally stop hearing it after the crash but it just keeps coming back. The only people who will get rich from this are the scammers themselves.

[–] anlumo@feddit.de 9 points 1 year ago

It’s a mindset. Once you know that the solution is Blockchain, all you need to do is to find a question that fits this answer to get filthily rich.

Casinos are also a known scam, but that hasn’t stopped them.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is now a recurring feature of tech vaporware. Claiming something that is clearly shit is okay because it does some good, or something that is uselesslt frivolous and speculative will have and important function and use-case in the future.

My condolences to those that have been made fools by this - we all need to keep an eye out for these patterns going forward.

I wanna add: prosecute and sue these thieves. Sue the people who took money to promote these lies. They all deserve to have those ill-gotten funds ripped away.

Who could have seen this coming? Who could have foreseen that all of Web3 was a ponzi scheme that would say anything to get people to pretend hashes on a blockchain is worth 100s of 1000s of dollars. Who? WHO?

[–] benoit@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

It sure sounds like that wasn't a feature of NFTs, but a feature of OpenSea

[–] jray4559@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago

pfffffffffffffffff

I want to be sympathetic, but honestly, I'm just not.

Web3 was a mistake from the beginning.

[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 15 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


One of the big promises of NFTs was that the artist who originally made them could get a cut every time their piece was resold.

Starting March 2024, those fees will essentially be tips — an optional percentage of a sale price that sellers can choose to give the original artist.

The marketplace will continue enforcing the fees on certain existing collections until March 2024, at which point they’ll become optional on all sales.

Critics say it will hurt small artists and undermines creators’ ability to control their relationship with the people who buy their work.

OpenSea CEO Devin Finzer criticized the fees’ “ineffective, unilateral enforcement” and said that creators will find other ways to monetize their work.

“Our role in this ecosystem is to empower innovation beyond a single use case or business model,” he writes in the blog post announcing that OpenSea will no longer support the ecosystem’s primary business model.


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[–] stormesp@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Except people has been stealing art to do NFTs without paying the artists from day 1?

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[–] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Ik the technology is useful, but selling shit I can screen shot is fucking pointless. If you want to buy shit from the artist, just buy their shit.

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[–] HeartyBeast@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Obligatory rather funny If NFTs Were Honest | Honest Ads https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sG_v4bb2e4k which sets this out, a year ago

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[–] mojo@lemm.ee 10 points 1 year ago

That was just many parts of the grift. Also when that feature was very rarely used, it was ironically a regular web 2.0 feature that was pushed between participating centralized MFT marketplaces. You know, because it was never actually decentralized.

[–] Nolegjoe@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I thought the royalty payments were enforced by the contract?

[–] Fisk400@feddit.nu 14 points 1 year ago (13 children)

Turns out that the smart contract is a post-it note stapled to the NFT and the marketplace can just ignore what the post-it note says because it's not legally binding.

What they can't do is trade with marketplaces that do enforce the contract. Originally it was enforced because if one marketplace stopped enforcing it the marketplace would be cut off from the Echo system but turns out that the 5 big marketplaces just need to agree to drop it and everything is fine.

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[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As long as I can take a screenshot of any random NFT and integrate a picture into my website, there's no fucking way those things are worth anything.

[–] 2tone@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They're worth a lot if you're laundering money

[–] viking@infosec.pub 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'd rather launder money through physical art, at least I can put that on my wall in the interim and don't have to first find means to convert my illegally acquired cash into a digital currency.

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[–] xavier666@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

You think it's funny to take screenshots of people's NFTS, huh? Property theft is a joke to you? l'll have you know that the blockchain doesn't lie. I own it. Even if you save it, it's my property. You are mad that you don't own the art that I own. Delete that screenshot.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

thank fuck nobody bought the nft of my dingus

[–] HeavyDogFeet@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

A problem with a blockchain-related grift? I’m utterly shocked!!!

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