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I'm so conflicted about Jim Carey. On one hand, he's a based socialist, on the other, he's an anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist idiot.
He's also monumentally depressed.
Have you seen the Kaufman documentary? IMO Carey is certifiably insane, he spat on someone and refused to apologize because it wasn't him, it was Andy. He literally thought he was possessed, or at least acted like that's what he thought
To be fair I think that method acting requires you to let go of your conceptual self, so I can see why Carey wouldn't necessarily think it was him, if he was in character.
To clarify: I don't think there's necessarily anything happening which is particularly interesting neurologically, but it is to say that I don't think the act of spitting on someone is necessarily the asshole move. I think the asshole move is to commit yourself to staying in character. There's something to be said for whether the commitment itself is worth it as an actor, and whether actions could be excused or forgiven, but I'm not here to make those points.
Where I am here to say is that Carey's choice to commit to staying in character makes him responsible for the impact and outcomes on other people.
It makes me think of Jared Leto, who was probably just trying a bit too hard, and sent dead rats to his co-stars or something?
I think that's a case of trying to bootstrap method acting but was certainly not very convincing. I think there's a case to be made that 'Leto' was responsible for that one. I'd call it "cosplaying at being obnoxious". In this case, I'd say Leto is responsible for those actions.
people are complex and can be right about some things and wrong in others, nuance exists.
I had this with the youtuber and investigative journalist Johnny Harris. He has some good videos where he does deep dive investigative journalism but then in other videos he hears something and just accepts it as fact. For instance, in his video on who is Elon Musk he accepts what Musk said about his history as fact and didn't check any of it. Or he uses multiple sources all leading to the same source: Musk. So the entire video is a big Musk circlejerk promo video. But with other videos he doesn't accept something that easily and goes really deep to find the truth. So I googled the guy, apparently he's a devout Mormon. How can I take this guy seriously with anything if I can't trust him to check his sources properly every time, when some things are just what he believes and accepts without doubting any of it. I mean, the guy believes in fairy tales, and really weard one too. So all of his material becomes junk as it's really hard to disect the good journalism from the bad yourself, without doing all the research yourself completely. He's a selective journalist, not an investigative one. But it took a while to spot the twisted info he produces. I followed him for a while and though he delivered proper investigations until he made videos on something I specialized in and he made critical errors while stating it as fact. This is, in my opinion, one of the most dangerous fake news forms out there. It even fooled me, while I'm not easily fooled.
He's definitely not a devout Mormon. He previously was, but then left the church.
He actually has a good series of videos on that. Recommend a watch.
I don't trust anything he says.
[from memory]
I stopped following him when he made a propaganda sponsored video without saying who paid for it. that's not a 'being wrong in some thing and right in others' that's more like the guys can't be trusted.
Yeah exactly.
Back in the day, people relied on main stream media that fact checked everything.
Then Ronald Reagan, Roger Ailes, and Rupert Murdoch came along.
Back in the day, people relied on main stream media that "fact checked" everything.
there was likely less fake news, but still not perfect?
Let me put it this way. The movie 'Network' went from being a cutting edge satire to a quaint docudrama in real time.
I'm Dan Rather and I approve this message
But as an internet commentator I am morally obligated to either stan them or hate them!
As a data scientist, I recommend not to run dimensionality reduction analysis on people.
Furier transforms are OK though
This is pretty much everyone.
yeah, it's obvious, yet somehow people are always surprised
Yeah, but if I had to choose between him and Adam Sandler I would go Jim any day of the week.
I wouldn't rush to Jim, though.
I'd go...at a medium pace...
I prefer Jims acting and the roles he's chosen, but Adam seems like he's probably a nicer person.
Adam Sandler is a Zionist it hardly gets more nasty than that
On the other hand, if all zionists were like Zohan then the middle east would be a much more pleasant place.
It’s a horrible movie that is
Its an Adam Sandler song reference..."At a medium pace".
Imo peak Sandler music. Everyone remembers Lunch Lady Land and Thanksgiving and Chanukah Song because they are (mostly) family friendly and get played on the radio sometimes.
At A Medium Pace will not get played on legit terrestrial radio. It is probably not family appropriate, unless your family has a traveling act called "The Aristocrats". That's that raunchy, cringey Sandler we all know and love and sorta miss but we know he's too old to really do it anymore and it wouldn't be genuine but he's still pretty good in romcom settings.
In what category?
Movies.
But this is a very niche joke based Animals in HBO dedication an entire episode+ to litigating Sandler vs Carrey
Basically trying to start a war in the comments
Penis size?
Yeah, true
Rich people are only socialist until someone tries to redistribute their wealth. It's all an act.
Jim Carrey is antivaxx?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Carrey
I like him enough as an actor to forgive the indiscretion if he had a change of heart. It seems there's nothing past 2015, and I feel like he must have changed his opinion if he was silent about it during COVID.
Maybe it's just wishful thinking, I haven't looked past the wiki.
nothing on jenny past 2015, its like news about them disappeared after that, maybe they are keeping thier anti-vax more private.
https://youtu.be/8r3RQD8rE9E
He's openly said that he isn't Jim Carrey, Jim Carrey is his Batman to his Bruce Wayne.
"I'm not real." -Jim Carrey.
Gah what a fucking tool.
Well at least he isn’t getting paid when I rewatch Ace Ventura 2 on plex 😎
Unfortunately, yes. Check out the Wikipedia article. It's a roller coaster ride.
Probably from his time being married to jenny McCarthy
I don't like Jim at all, he's a brain damaged hypocrite who thinks he's the wisest motherfucker to ever live.
I think you may be reading him wrong. He keeps saying he isn't him or anyone else. I think he thinks that he is just a guy, and Jim Carrey is his Batman. I kinda feel bad for the guy, as it seems that he has to keep feeding the machine so he can pay for whatever debts he's trying to take care of.
"He keeps saying he isn't him or anyone else."
The guy doesn't want to take responsibility for the terrible things he's done like driving Cathriona White to suicide or him being a massive hypocrite when he took action movie money then claimed that anyone who sees the movie is endorsing irl violence.
He's just another washed comedian from the 90's who thinks his immense privilege is somehow profound.
A lot of people are upset that you're poo-pooing on their childhood celebrity nostalgia. We're gonna ask you to poo poo on somebody else's nostalgia.
Maybe something less charged like a celebrity from the Apprentice or Oprah?
My toxic trait is hating on sanctimonious celebrities who got famous before the internet era
Really gets the gen x's stirred up
Yeah, rewatching the documentary that Patrick CC made on him does highlight that a bit more than I remembered.
Though it does go on to say that none of that evidence held up in court upon examination. I'm not going to say that totally clears Carrey, it doesn't. It does seem he crashed hard, possibly intentionally on others parts, and has willingly stepped out of the spotlight since. He seems to have learned something.
That sounds kinda brain damaged to me