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[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The past had a LOT of smiths.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 62 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or maybe it was the sexiest profession back then.

[–] xkbx@startrek.website 50 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It’s because most anvils were tuned to G. It was considered the original root scale step because anvils often worked best when tuned to G. But back in those days, it was called Sol (Solfège.) In french, Sol means ground, which is at the bottom. Ergo, every hammer driven by the smith was really just a sort of mating call that sent all the bottoms running to the smith’s doorstep. This is where the expression “she built like an anvil” comes from

[–] Lemming6969@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So Mason = Built like a brick shithouse

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Read above you thinking... You mean she's a brick.. house?

[–] Pelicanen@fedia.io 3 points 1 day ago

She's mighty, mighty, just letting it all hang out.

[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

reads like a tr*mp xeet lol

[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only the sexy professions reproduced

[–] Infinite@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Kellenved@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Seems many did not, but I did, see what you did there

[–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Social darwinism isn't that, although it's big with people of Netherlandian extraction, Calvinists.

Social darwinism is the belief that everything is preordained, and if you are rich, god favors you, if poor, god hates you. It would be irresponsible to help the poor because god wants them to suffer, and so forth. Like the Prosperity Doctrine.

[–] homes@piefed.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] tdawg@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Didn't someone tell you it's illegal to make jokes on Lemmy

[–] Vlhvhkctjxrhxv@ani.social 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (4 children)

Metalsmith, Blacksmith, Gunsmith, Goldsmith, Silversmith, Locksmith, Coppersmith, Tinsmith, Wordsmith, Songsmith

[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

“Hey, kids! It’s time for the PokeRap!”

[–] AzuranAurora@piefed.ca 5 points 1 day ago

Gonna, gonna, gonna forge 'em all. Gonna forge 'em all, Smithemon!

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Also, a bunch of Wrights too: Cartwright, Wainwright, Shipwright, Wheelright, etc.

Then there's just plain occupational names: Miller, Farmer, Thatcher, and so on.

Had this tradition continued, the information age would have given us: Chipwright, Cloudwright, Videosmith, Hacksmith, Coder, Tester, Gamer, Printer, and probably a ton more.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 day ago

I always found it fun to learn about these old timey professions that (basically) no longer exist, but still exist as names, like:

  • Cooper: a craftsman who makes barrels, casks, etc.,
  • Hooper: an assistant to the cooper. Someone who put the hoops (bands of metal or wood) around the barrels. This one is especially good because coopers took over the job of putting the bands on, so the job died off while "cooper" still existed as a job, yet there are still people with that name
  • Fuller / Walker: a person who softens and cleans wool, sometimes by walking on it, sometimes using the hands
  • Clark: this one still exists, but is spelled and pronounced differently as "clerk".
  • Turner: someone who operated a lathe. Basically a specialized machinist.
  • Marshall: this is a fun one. Originally it had to do with horses, it was "mareshal", but then somehow evolved to be a high officer of the court, unrelated to "martial" which sounds the same but comes from "Mars" the god of war.
  • Parker: The job exists now, but is more "park ranger" or just "ranger"
  • Baxter: Baker -- but the feminine form of the word. Similarly "Webster" is the female form of "Weber" (Weaver), Brewster is the female version of Brewer, Spinster is the female form of Spinner, etc.
  • Carter: someone who moves goods with a cart
[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Man, sign me the fuck up for Hacksmith or Codewright. I'm all for nominative determinism like this

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Whitesmith is also used

[–] dfyx@lemmy.helios42.de 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Smiths and millers were common enough professions that basically every village had one but rare enough to be useful as a description. John the farmer would have been way too vague, leading to names that come from physical appearance, place of origin or relatives‘ given names.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

John the farmer would have been way too vague

"De boer", or "the farmer" is the 10th most common surname in the Netherlands. Top three are "The young", "son of Jan" and "The Frisian".

[–] cornshark@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] thethunderwolf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Smiths were generally wealthier so they had a better diet and what amounted to medical care, and they were rarely put in combat because they were needed to make weapons. So more of them survived.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

[smiths] were rarely put in combat because they were needed to make weapons. So more of them survived.

That's how it works for my dwarves, too.

[–] teyrnon@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

People in cthe middle ages in ciities were wealthier and healthier, and free. People in the country were slaves or tools of the local lords. City air makes you free they would say, cities were filled with free people, and run by guilds generally, smiths chief amongst them. Other cities were more merchant ruled chiefly. The nobility forever looked down on commerce, everything except agriculture and war generally.

You couldn't just move into a city, you needed an in, like getting accepted as an apprentice in a guild.

Totally true, and there were also smiths scattered around rural areas in small towns like mechanics today.

[–] StillAlive@piefed.world 9 points 1 day ago

Smith be smithing tho