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Israeli prime minister Binyamin Netanyahu said any Gaza ceasefire deal must allow Israel to resume fighting until its objectives are met.

“Any deal will allow Israel to return and fight until all the goals of the war are achieved,” Mr Netanyahu said in a statement on Sunday.

Hamas has dropped a key demand that Israel first commit to a permanent ceasefire before it would sign an agreement. Instead, it said it would allow negotiations to achieve that throughout the six-week first phase, a Hamas source said on Saturday.

But Mr Netanyahu said he insisted the deal must not prevent Israel from resuming fighting until its war objectives are met.

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[–] Orbituary@lemmy.world 194 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Literally the opposite of a ceasefire.

[–] BossDj@lemm.ee 32 points 4 months ago

"Return the hostages and we will kill you!"

"Don't you mean OR we will kill you?"

"...No"

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 104 points 4 months ago (6 children)

So, since Netanyahu has stated that his main objective is the complete destruction of hamas, and he will not allow a cease fire until his objective is met, and hamas is an international organization with leaders in Turkey and UAE and based around an idea that cannot really be destroyed...

Basically he wants to be able to continue to fight forever? Yea, that fits.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

and hamas is an international organization with leaders in Turkey and UAE and based around an idea

And also every single Palestinian in Gaza AND the West Bank is Hamas according to Netanyahu and the rest of the war criminals. Yes, even the children.

These monsters literally won't stop until all Palestinians are dead or the West stops enabling their crimes against humanity and gives them the South Africa treatment.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You ever see those movies where a hit squad takes out a family but leaves a baby, and then the baby grows up and takes revenge and kills the entire organization that sent the hit squad?

He's just covering his bases. He's gotta kill every single Palestinian and Hamas member regardless of where they live.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The fact that I can't tell whether this is a hilariously ghoulish joke or you're serious really says a lot about the credulity of Zionists 😬😄

[–] rubberberry@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Ironically thats how biblical Herod tried to make sure that newborn Jesus wont survive when he ordered the slaughter of the innocents

[–] BaalInvoker@lemmy.eco.br 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

He wants vanishes Gaza and then re-settle with Israel flag. It's all about the territory, not about Hamas.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

As the great philosopher said, “Fighting for peace is like fucking for virginity”

[–] ironhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago (1 children)

War is peace.

Freedom is slavery.

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 4 points 4 months ago

Backspace is delete.

(Sorry)

[–] makyo@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

He knows he can keep power as long as there's a war but his days are numbered when it's over. So a forever war is in his best interest.

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Religious nuts like Netanyahu want to murder every member of other religions. That is his real objective.

[–] Th4tGuyII@fedia.io 54 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

The goals of the war being?...

Oh right, the destruction of every non-Israeli living in Gaza.

  • Why else would they go after Hospitals treating innocent Palestinian victims?

  • Why else would they spend months and months denying any and all foreign aid to Gaza after cutting them off from all food, water, and electricity?

  • Why else would they airstrike clearly marked aid convoys for Gaza going along a pre-agreed route?

  • Why else would members of the IDF record thselves killing innocent Palestinians?

  • Why else would they oppose any and all peace deals, and openly plot to betray any and all ceasefires?

Israel has killed more than 30,000 innocent people. You can't just call that collateral or even callous disregard, it's mass murder, a genocide of Palestinians in Gaza.

Hamas are not good guys by any stretch, but if you're being morally high-grounded by a terrorist organisation, then you ought to know which side of history you're on.

Edit: Israeli not Israelite

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There's a British medical journal called lancet that estimates the deaths at 186,000. Remember. The death counts stopped changing much in like February or March because Israel destroyed the Gaza Health ministry which is responsible reporting.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

Also because they can't dig the bodies out of the rubble and because the bodies have been blown into so many pieces they're hard to count.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

*Israeli, Israelite is a biblical term.

[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 4 months ago

Oh right, the destruction of every non-Israelite living in Gaza.

As we've seen since Oct 7th itself, Israelis are also acceptable collateral damage.

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

"We will only accept a ceasefire in which we do not cease firing"

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 37 points 4 months ago

Could we get a list of theses goals? Because somewhere down around "elimination of the Palestinian people" is honestly a bit of a concern...

[–] istanbullu@lemmy.ml 27 points 4 months ago

His goal being the complete murder of all Palestinians.

[–] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 4 months ago

"I agree to the cease-fire, you must cease fire. Me? I will stop once we're out of targets AND bullets, but the bullets come in 1000 packs, and targets come in 100001 packs, so it might be a while"

[–] UltraMagnus0001@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Till the genocide is complete

"the only way I'm agreeing to not fight is if THEY can't fight but I'm allowed to keep fighting" says toddler who doesn't understand how logic works yet

[–] EABOD25@lemm.ee 13 points 4 months ago

I don't think Mr. Netanyahu knows what ceasefire means

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

This sounds like Putins input to a possible peace deal some weeks ago, were Ukraine gives up the contested regions.

[–] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Same as it always was with Israel.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's worth mentioning there are huge protests against Netanyahu and his faschist regime. Instead of dissing Israel, wish us good luck.

[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Any idea if those protests are making any difference? Watching Israel become this has been heartbreaking.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

They do make a difference, but not yet THE difference we're all wishing for.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

They just want the hostages returned. They don't really seem to care about the genocide.

[–] Xeroxchasechase@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

"Don't seems to care " sure....

[–] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

But guys! They have a framework!