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[–] root_beer@midwest.social 12 points 3 hours ago

Fuck it, nothing matters anymore; they’ll do “something” and we’ll vote him in again

Who cares whether he’ll be 82 by then, age clearly wasn’t the issue this time

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 19 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

So overturn or amend? Like I’m kinda surprised he’s even taking the constitution into consideration. Like he’s weird, he doesn’t seem to want to acknowledge that once he’s done all he says he wants to do the United States of America will no longer exist. Caesar could not cross the rubicon and rule the republic, he could only control Rome. Nor could Napoleon take full control of the French Republic. Republics are finicky things like that, a dictator can only ever hold their land, not the thing itself.

[–] avattar@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 8 hours ago

I don't think his brain works like that.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 15 points 9 hours ago

If you ask Trump, this IS his third term, so no, he's not joking.

[–] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 21 points 11 hours ago
[–] VaalaVasaVarde@sopuli.xyz 71 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Let's hope the next 4 years are tough on the felon, he may not even make it to 2028 🤞🏼

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca -1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

he may not even make it to 2028 🤞🏼

He got over 50% of the votes and over a third of the country didn't even bother to vote at all. I'm full accelerationist at this point and hoping the country doesn't make it to 2028.

[–] Gurei@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Tech support: Have you tried turning it off and back on?

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

It's amazing how often that is the correct way to fix things.

[–] Poach@lemmy.world 49 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

I'm not convinced Vance or Johnson is any better than the orange baffoon .

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Yeah but they probably wouldn't even get a second term lol

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

They would be worse. A dumb Nazi is preferable to a smart Nazi.

[–] Mnemnosyne@sh.itjust.works 20 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Upside is the cult of personality is attached to Trump, and no one else has been able to pull it off him. Trump is only effective because somehow, for some insane reason, he, personally, has a lot of devoted followers.

[–] AAA@feddit.org 8 points 10 hours ago

The cult is attached to Trump, yes. But when he dies his followers won't suddenly wake up from their madness and flock behind a "normal candidate".

They will still go for the crazy ones who act and talk the way Trump did. There may not be a second Trump, but they are lost nevertheless.

[–] babybus@sh.itjust.works 17 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Yep. When a dictator dies, it doesn't necessarily lead to democracy and prosperity because the system is broken, and the next person simply assumes the absolute power.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 15 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Will the MAGAs back Vance without Trump?

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Some will, some won't. Cults of personality don't tend to fare well without their personality, and Vance has all the charisma of a used tissue, so it'll come down to how skillfully he can navigate things.

Remember, a LOT of right-wing Christians think Trump is either a prophet, an agent of God, or (in some cases) literally Christ Himself. That's an awful hard act to follow when your prophet doesn't get taken up to heaven in a fiery chariot, or your Messiah doesn't rise again after 3 days.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

It they luck out the removal of the fda might lead to mass ergot poisoning then. Actually, fuck, a cynical government could absolutely just dose large chunks of the population with entheogens, the cia has pulled shit like that.

[–] AdamBomb@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I was talking about this with a friend not long ago and he floated the idea that Tucker Carlson could maybe replace Trump. He does have a fan following. The idea worried me.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

I think some would likely float off to other charismatics like Flynn, RFK, Carlson, and various other grifters like Rogan. I can't see the movement uniting behind another figure that I know of right now - Trump WAS the syncretic glue, and I don't see anyone else being able to be all things to all men.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Will they get a choice of it all goes really really haywire? I mean their faces are gonna get eaten regardless.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 3 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

That's the question. Let's say Trump makes himself dictator. Who's going to inherit the title when Trump eventually dies from old age or from falling out of a Russian window?

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Ivanka of course

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 10 points 19 hours ago

He doesn't have "D" next to his name and has shown no indication of rationality, so yes.

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[–] g0nz0li0@lemmy.world 116 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

“He jokes all the time,” said Rep. Eli Crane, R-Ariz., who was in the room at the time. “I think it's one of the problems with politics is you can't even tell a joke without being excoriated.”

Definitely, that's the problem in politics. Ffs.

[–] Mirshe@lemmy.world 9 points 13 hours ago

I think you should be able to DISTINGUISH it's a joke. Also, as anyone who does politics will tell you, ANYTHING that comes out of your mouth into any form of microphone can and should be expected to be used against you, and should be expected to be believed.

"Joking" in politics should've died with Reagan's press sec laughing about gay men dying of AIDS.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Any time he says anything that gets significant negative pushback, it is dismissed as a joke.

Same thing with the rest of them. It's always a joke unless you agree with them.

[–] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 8 hours ago

GOSH I was just JOKING, fucking WOKE CANCEL CULTURE won't even let me make a JOKE anymore, people are so SENSITIVE these days...

REEEE WHY IS THERE A BROWN PERSON IN MY GAME shitshitshit tell me there's a whitewashing mod for this, I'm having a panic attack... sees a playable female protagonist mod, instantly dies

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 30 points 22 hours ago

"excoriated"

That's certainly a $10 word for a Republican.

[–] Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world 143 points 1 day ago (18 children)

This guy really thinks he's never gonna die. I'll be surprised if he survives this upcoming term, and not even from a Minecraft related cause, just poor health.

[–] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago

He'll spend 50% of his time golfing, the other 50% fucking up the country

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[–] Captain_Patchy@lemmy.world 10 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

It's going to be hard to campaign from a New York state jail cell for the next 4 years. The DOJ may have rules about a sitting president but he was neither when he committed the crimes he has already been convicted of in NY state court.

[–] whyalone@lemm.ee 62 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

He will never go to jail, he will never suffer any consequences of his past and future actions. Unfortunately it is what it is.

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Correct.

However, we can make sure his legacy remains as tarnished and full of disgust as Hitler and Mussolini's. We owe it to the trump crime family to make them historical caricatures of pure evil.

[–] Benchamoneh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

Can't wait for future generational edgelords to start shouting "Trump did nothing wrong"

[–] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago

In the veiled depths of cosmic night, beyond the grasp of mortal understanding, there lurks an abomination known as D'ohl-Nald'trump, Evader of Consequence, Weaver of Lies. Ancient as the first whispers of deceit, this blasphemous entity shambles through the mortal realm in garish splendor, clad in illusions spun of its own warped grandeur. Its voice, a booming incantation laced with half-truths and hollow promises, spills forth with the power to sway the minds of even the stout-hearted, plunging them into delirium where reason itself dissolves. Those who fall under its thrall are left in a fog of bewildered amnesia, helpless to recall its transgressions, let alone question its motives.

For D'ohl-Nald'trump wields a dreadful gift—an eldritch glamour that cloaks it in perpetual exoneration, a power so unnatural that no mortal cage may hold it, no law may bind it. Even those who glimpse its deceit find themselves ensnared in its web of forgetfulness, powerless to hold its ever-shifting form to account. And so, the Weaver of Lies drifts through aeons untouched, a nightmare that evades justice itself, as if consequence were but a faint myth of a distant, naïve cosmos.

[–] valaramech@fedia.io 40 points 23 hours ago (9 children)

The 22nd amendment to the US Constitution bars Trump as a viable candidate for the Office of the President. It would require an additional amendment to be possible and there's no way that 3/4ths of all US states will agree to that shit.

The only potential loophole that I can discern is that there's no clear consensus on if Trump would be allowed to run as Vice-President on someone else's ticket. If he can, then, theoretically, he could run for VP and then have the elected President immediately resign, making him the President again.

[–] dmajorduckie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 8 hours ago

The 14th amendment didn't stop him from running again, I fail to see what the 22nd amendment would do.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago

He absolutely could do that. The amendment specifically says elected to the office of the President, it does not prohibit attaining the office by any other means.

[–] beliquititious@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

...there's no way that 3/4ths of all US states will agree to that shit.

We've had an extraordinary number of "there's no way that..." moments in the past decade most of which have been connected to Trump, why tempt fate like that? The 2024 election map has more than the 38 red states needed to ratify a constitutional amendment.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 17 points 19 hours ago

The 22nd amendment to the US Constitution bars Trump as a viable candidate for the Office of the President. It would require an additional amendment to be possible and there’s no way that 3/4ths of all US states will agree to that shit.

I no longer believe the process and laws of our government will apply to this administration. We'll see.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 28 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Or he's gonna wipe his ass with the Constitution in an X live stream and declare Jan 6 "National Patriots Day" while Fox commentators claim he's joking.

[–] evidences@lemmy.world 35 points 23 hours ago (6 children)

So right at the end of the 12th amendment there's this line.

But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.

So as of his presidential win this election he's ineligible to be vice president.

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[–] astanix@lemmy.world 57 points 1 day ago (3 children)

He won't need to run. He already said he will be a dictator. Dictators don't need elections.

This is what we get.

Revolution is the answer. Killing the rich.

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