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Hello, IT. Have you tried turning it off and on again?

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Tom Knight and the Lisp Machine

A novice was trying to fix a broken Lisp machine by turning the power off and on.

Knight, seeing what the student was doing, spoke sternly: “You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong.”

Knight turned the machine off and on.

The machine worked.

Source: http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/index.html Section IIIA

[–] qx128@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

Go bigger than IT problems.

Most desk jobs are simply finding information: a suitable combination of 1s and 0s until someone else agrees that the combination is correct.

Then, as a reward, the business slightly changes the 1s and 0s of my bank account.

It’s 1s and 0s all the way down.

[–] xorollo@leminal.space 4 points 9 hours ago

No, sometimes the answer is just turn it off.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 20 points 23 hours ago

Under the same logic, All problems are also caused by turning it off and on again.

[–] AllYourSmurf@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

A novice was trying to fix a broken Lisp machine by turning the power off and on.

Knight, seeing what the student was doing, spoke sternly: “You cannot fix a machine by just power-cycling it with no understanding of what is going wrong.”

Knight turned the machine off and on.

The machine worked.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

One token ring to crash them all!

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Turning it off and on again is a universal truth. A defibrillator works by turning the heart off then on again.

(You don't defib a patient who is flat lining. You defib to fix an erratic heart beat.)

[–] SolaceFiend@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Our University is a cosmic machine that has been running for billions of years, and as an IT guy reboots a computer when it's been running for too long and has problems, will inevitably implode on itself and tear itself apart, which is the equivalent of God turning it off and on again.

[–] Apytele@sh.itjust.works 10 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

ECT basically does that too but for brains. Too sad and Prozac isn't fixing it? We're gonna put you under and slap the reset button every other day until you're not. Shit works too its fucking wild.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 3 points 11 hours ago

I believe there is also a medical treatment that consists of wiping out your white blood cells entirely so your body has to make new ones.

"Have you tried turning the immune system off then on again?'

[–] L0rdMathias@sh.itjust.works 162 points 1 day ago (3 children)

In theory. In reality it's not on or off it's always on and it's high vs low voltage.

[–] Godnroc@lemmy.world 107 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Ah, so the answer is just to get high!

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 71 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Orrrr get low

To the windowwwwwww...

I'm old

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] oleorun@real.lemmy.fan 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Till the sweat drip down my balls

[–] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 day ago (4 children)
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[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Thx now I have Need for Speed Underground in my mind

[–] shadow@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man I loved that game. I didn't even play the story much. It's was just a fun drive around game

[–] Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] shadow@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 8 hours ago

I... Thought it did....

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe I'm misremembering (or it's just old knowledge and new chips are more sophisticated) but despite it being low voltage vs high voltage the outcome is still on or off because there's a resistor in the semiconductor that either allows current through or not. If it were a light switch it would be the equivalent of turning the light on or off.

Ya. It's more like "current go this way or current go that way" than it is high/low voltages.

[–] vinnymac@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

And yet I still have electronics to this day that require me to pull the plug to get going again 😂

[–] oleorun@real.lemmy.fan 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Our LG washing machine does this once every year and a half almost like clockwork. It will simply refuse to do anything until it is unplugged and then plugged back in.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It may be clockwork. If its power hasn't been interrupted in the interim, i.e. you have very stable power at your house, that's got to be some kind of overflow bug in its software. A timer somewhere is running out of room to count clock ticks and it barfs.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

washing machine

overflow

heh 🫧

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[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

That's actually why. You have to drain the power from the circuits.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

Studied computer science. The answer is yes.

A computer is a funky thingy that's a jumbled city of stuff turning on and off with the one master on/off thingy which is the clock on the processor.

When it switches from negative to positive a lot of small switches everywhere switch, some stay the same, some flip. It's all just a bunch of rythm dancing of switches going off and on.

[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If you used mechanical switches, would it be possible to build a large version of some modern semiconductor chip? If so, I would expect that contraption to be slower and louder than the original.

[–] olafurp@lemmy.world 3 points 22 hours ago

If you're willing to sacrifice the clock speed it's possible. One of the issues will be that the insane amount of logic gates would have to propagate through every cycle which happens stupid fast on modern chips. Still possible to model it and do a timelapse.

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)
[–] TranquilTurbulence@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

This is pretty cool. I don't care how slow it is. It just shows that that it can be done. If you want something useful, use silicon. If you want something awesome, use creative alternatives like pneumatic pipes and valves. :D

[–] Senseless@feddit.org 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Until some stray gamma ray hits just the right spot, flips a bit and either nothing at all of everything all at once happens.

[–] Klear@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Advanced speedrun strats.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Studied computer science. The answer is yes.

NP = P, folks. Pack it up and go home.

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We need a cells at work type of anime but about computers.

It’s all just a bunch of rythm dancing

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[–] ThePyroPython@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago
[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Sometimes the fix is to turn it off, take it out back and beat it with a stick.

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta

[–] SidewaysHighways@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

I got a killa up inside of me

[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 32 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Mostly, though there's also fire-fighting too.

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[–] officermike@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] MyTurtleSwimsUpsideDown@fedia.io 24 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That would also mean that all IT problems are caused by turning something off and on again at some level.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 day ago (6 children)

If you just stopped using your computer it wouldn’t crash.

[–] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

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