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White folks are used to being polite and accommodating to cops. Do not fall into your old ways. For once, your silence will not be violence. STFU if the cops come looking for your neighbours. No matter how friendly.

Fascism only works if we go along with it. Fascism only works if we surrender to it. Resist. Do not say a word about your neighbours. As far as the cops are concerned you’re a recluse who doesn’t talk to anybody where you live."

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"Fascist raids by law enforcement should be met with:

I don’t know.

I can’t help.

I do not know anybody’s legal status.

I have no idea who is an immigrant.

White folks are used to being polite and accommodating to cops.

Do not fall into your old ways.

For once, your silence will not be violence. STFU if the cops come looking for your neighbours. No matter how friendly.

Fascism only works if we go along with it. Fascism only works if we surrender to it.

Resist.

Do not say a word about your neighbours. As far as the cops are concerned you’re a recluse who doesn’t talk to anybody where you live."

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[–] breadsmasher@lemmy.world 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

the only illegal immigrant I know is elon musk

[–] Itsamelemmy@lemmy.zip 2 points 55 minutes ago

Do not say a word about your neighbours. ~~As far as the cops are concerned~~ you’re a recluse who doesn’t talk to anybody where you live."

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 10 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

As far as the cops are concerned you’re a recluse who doesn’t talk to anybody where you live.

Oh shit, did they get my internet search history ? how do they know so much about me.

For once, your silence will not be violence.

Make no mistake your silence WILL be met with violence.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (3 children)

Then take one for the team.

The violence that would be given to a lawful, rights bearing, legitimate citizen with full rights and privileges will pale in comparison to the violence that will be done to someone who doesn't have all those privileges.

If something is done to a lawful citizen, then they can have some kind of recourse to do something about it. Someone who doesn't have the same rights will have little or no choice to do anything about the violence done to them.

Once you give in to any kind of violence .... the violence only becomes worse for everyone.

[–] TurtleSoup@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

It's like part of me wants to follow MLK's way of doing things but then 5 minutes later it's "welp. Guess we're doing it Malcom X's way instead." Then I have to sit there and remind myself that violence only begets violence and sooner or later history will look back and say "nobody remembers why the fighting started, just that it did and that it's been going ever since."

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (1 children)

Then take one for the team.

Very easy to go on an internet message board and beat your chest and say you won't break.

Very difficult to take an actual beating.

Once you give in to any kind of violence … the violence only becomes worse for everyone.

"I won't break under torture" is a sentiment held briefly by untold numbers of torture victims.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm Indigenous Canadian and I've had my share of dealing with law enforcement for minor stuff. I never did anything wrong, I just had to stand my ground and even when I did, I still faced difficulty and it took allies around me to make it easier. The point is, it's easier to fight and challenge now when the violence and provocation is minimal.

You are right, I would probably be a wuss as much as anyone else under torture ... which is why I would rather fight and challenge now, rather than wait until things get much worse and I have to break under more extreme conditions.

[–] metaStatic@kbin.earth 3 points 2 hours ago

I wasn't suggesting you capitulate.

You think you have rights until there's a gun in your face, that's the whole point, you get it worse if you don't capitulate because standing up to them is the biggest most unforgivable crime there is.

[–] TurtleSoup@lemmy.zip 14 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

To quote one of my favorite shows (Mr Inbetween): "I don't answer questions." - Ray Shoesmith.

[–] miss_demeanour@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

One of the best series ever. Surprising how few people actually know it.

[–] TurtleSoup@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

I didn't know about until I discovered Australia's small yet impressive film industry after watching The Magician and the rabbit hole just got deeper from there. Scott Ryan is a pretty talented actor/director.

[–] TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.ee 5 points 2 hours ago

This is terrible legal advice, do not do this.

If you stonewall during an actual questioning with local police they can treat you as a hostile witness, or even attempt to charge you with aiding and abetting or impeding an investigation. It probably won't stick, but you're still not going to have a great time. As they say, you can beat the charge, but you can't beat the ride.

If you are officially being questioned be polite, keep an even tone and demeanor and state " I would really love to help you in your investigation, but I would like to speak to my lawyer first." If they press you afterwards just keep repeating that you would really like to help, but to do so you require legal representation. That way if anyone can be accused of slowing down an investigation it's the police, and it's because they are wasting time denying you your rights.

Do not make statements to the police without a lawyer present, even if it's something as small as "I don't know". More than likely if it's for immigration, these will be federal officers. If you lie to a federal officer, you will be charged with a felony.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Only problem with those is if they can prove you knew.

Best thing to say is “Am I being detained?” And if so you say “I invoke the fifth amendment.”

And then you shut the fuck up.

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world -3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

White folks are used to being polite and accomodating to cops.

Oh fuck off. White folks are the ones who made up the majority of the workers movement and literally had battles with the cops and military.

No one has a history of more resistance to cops than white folks.

[–] Anegro_Montoya@sh.itjust.works 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

Seems backwards. You'd think the minorities would make up the majority... Thank you, white folks, for being the cause of, and solution to, our problems!

[–] Cypher@lemmy.world 1 points 34 minutes ago

You took ‘more resistance’ as simply a numbers game when it’s clear to anyone paying attention that ‘white folk’ are simply willing to engage in much higher levels of violence for their cause.

The black panthers armed themselves, unionists had pitched battles with police and mercenaries, and hung them.

But go ahead and demonise people based on race. That’s working out really well in the US right now lol