Everyone knows international aid is to support local economies
I don’t think anything is backfiring
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I hope every farmer who voted for Trump loses their farm. Literally.
Seriously fuck these people its obvious what Trump is about. He did this the first time he was in office
https://www.ers.usda.gov/publications/pub-details?pubid=102979
A 2022 US dept of agriculture publication, the overview: "This report provides a detailed look at the impact of retaliatory [2018] tariffs by State and commodity and estimates the direct export losses associated with the trade conflict." Added 2018 for context
Takes two clicks to get to the summary. I can't tell what the US even won out of the war, but looks like we lost damn bigly. And are pushing the same tarrifs again 💀
I think that would affect the rest of us, because that means family farms might be taken over by corporations, which is already a huge problem. Because of the downstream effects on the nation as a whole, I sincerely hope they learn their damned lesson.
Do they deserve to lose everything for their stupidity? Sure. Do the rest of us deserve to pay for their stupidity with an increasingly corporatized or weakened agricultural base? No.
Most small farms die when the next family member in line to take over doesn’t want to do it. This is personal for me because my father was a farmer and died when I was a teenager. My family now just rent out the land we own and I ended up not becoming a farmer because I don’t want to die young like he did. Farming is a stressful as hell job and it’s getting more expensive to even get into it anymore unless you got investors or inherit everything like my father did. If you don’t, then you’ll be in debt forever.
Wait until they cut crop insurance subsidies.
That would honestly kill the industry. Most farmers rely way too much on it.
Hopefully, they lose it to agricorps, and then get pissed about being exploited, and come back on the side of the working class.
I once thought it was that simple so I understand where people on here are coming from on all this. But after ten years in the San Joaquin valley, ag central, I can tell you, having grown up in Seattle and thus seeing the contrast, there is a distinct power in fundamental formal education and when that is lacking it doesn't matter what happens to them, the powers-that-be always know how gullible they are and will mold them like playdoh. I think the schools need to be funded by the central government not local governments. Big city liberals should have to put up frankly with their local neighborhood schools being taken down a few notches through evenly spreading education funds across jurisdictions if they don't want schools way out in the boondocks to be as vapid as one finds them. If you won't pay for their education my attitude is don't complain about their politics and try your best not to complain about their intelligence. I find that hard myself - I get frustrated all the time with the people in this small town, but I still try to remind myself what I've learned about education itself and I try to have compassion. Maybe that's what ten years out in the boondocks teaches a Seattleite.
Well, if they don't turn around, they become far less effectual when dirt poor, thanks to the system they created. And the poorer they are, the faster they die off.
If you won’t pay for their education my attitude is don’t complain about their politics and try your best not to complain about their intelligence.
We already do pay for their education. What do you think the Department of Ed does? Title IX funding? It comes from blue states.
I try to have compassion
I'll have compassion for them, once they stop being class traitors.
My understanding is that it's the taxes from the surrounding neighborhoods where homes are located that fundamentally pay for schools.
Right? Reap what you sow lol
"gambit"
Sure, let's call it that.
It's the normalization blues
The famous chess move: king's gambit. Sacrifice your king for victory. Wait a minute . . .
President Musk would be just fine sacrificing Trump.
It’s a 30D chess move!
Donald Trump may have thought that defunding the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID) would only hurt foreigners -- but it turns out he could actually be mistaken.
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"May have thought" - that would be to strong for him. Thinking has never been his strong point. He reacts to what people around him tell him. He picks up ideas at random and turns them into executive orders.
Right, he probably only "may have thought" what Musk told him to do, which was to hurt USAID for investigating Starlink+Russia
Almost like they don't know what the purpose of government is...
The purpose of government is to funnel taxpayer money into the hands of the rich, and to enforce laws against the poor, duh.
The purpose of the government is to ensure nobody can say "woke" stuff, apparently.
And almost like they don't realize that large portions of the US economy is highly dependent on the US's interventionalist stance.
It's like every fucking kid learns in history class. The biggest beneficiary of the US Marshall plan was the US - the US is constantly making international decisions that drive more business to the US... those decisions usually start as deficits driving aide abroad and then form strong economic and diplomatic bonds that benefit everyone.
Trump is torpedoing the US's relationships abroad and by doing so the US economy.
China can pick it up. :/
Britain had to fuck up and destabilize a shitload of countries to build its empire. China is being handed it's global dominance on a silver platter due to the fact that the US several other Western nations are too far up their own white supremacist libertarian assholes to actually fix shit.
I mean Milei in Argentina is such an unmitigated disaster it isn't funny, but they praise him like he is somehow uplifting the country when now 7 out of 10 Argentinian children are living in poverty.
You're currently watching an amalgam of Nazi Germany and the levellers and diggers from the 17th century England.
Currently you are experiencing what happens when a bunch of angry people have no plans on what to do after their anger is exhausted. There is no interest in doing anything but burn it all to the ground.
Something like almost 80% of farmers voted Trump. Those leopards are eating good
They’ll stand by their vote while blaming democrats for the dei hires responsible for their farms getting shut down.
Those leopards are eating good
The leopards are becoming obese now, WONT SOMEONE THINK OF THE LEOPARDS
Ah yes, the Brexiters! Quite an overlap of talking points too. Minus the healthcare, there's non to speak of in US.
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They write these stories like this isn't the result he is looking for. The point is to crash, not rebuild; nothing the Trump administration is doing is geared to help, rebuild, or make America great. That's not how they make money. The more I see, the more I hear the more I am convinced the whole point is to destabilize and rebuild to get rid of that pesky constitution.
Maybe I am just angry or doomsaying, but I'll be damned if it doesn't look that way, and to make matters even worse, people just can't wrap their heads around the whole organized minority rules over the unorganized majority thing.
They write these stories like this isn’t the result he is looking for. The point is to crash, not rebuild;
I'm noticing a slightly different pattern with these actions. I don't think trump and his cronies were actually seeking to hurt farmers, but something else.
- hurt everyone temporary to see who screams.
- Those that scream that are opponents, continue to deny them the government benefit
- Those that are allies, extract concessions and/or pledges of fealty before returning the same benefit they had before.
- For those that don't scream, or don't scream loud enough, simply pocket the benefit for himself and his own goals.
nothing the Trump administration is doing is geared to help, rebuild, or make America great.
Agreed.
Basically pull all the cables and see what breaks that you care about.
Then just fix that.
Basically pull all the cables and see what breaks that you care about.
Then just fix that.
Yes. In IT we call this the "scream test". This feels like that with added corruption.
Incidentally, Musk did exactly that at Twitter. He blamed the developers for his own recklessness ("I was told we had redundancy across our data centers. What I wasn’t told was that we had 70,000 hard-coded references to Sacramento. And there’s still shit that’s broken because of it") when the infrastructure team strongly warned him ahead of time that this needed to be done carefully to avoid issues.
Which indicates that he learned nothing. Now he's doing the same to the federal government.
What Musk didn't isn't what is acceptable as a "scream test" in IT. "Scream test" is only use after exhausting all other avenues of identifying any live processes still in use. Additionally, its broadcast weeks or months in advance so folks can be on the lookout for a process of theirs that is failing they didn't know was on the servers in question. Further, the "scream test" is just powering down the server, or possibly disconnecting it from the network. Either task can be un-done quickly to restore service in the event a live process is found that needs to be preserved.
Musk just ripped shit out in the middle of the night with no easy way to restore service. What he did was like ripping out your own organs to see if you die from it? Appendix? Apparently not needed. Liver? Why am I dead now?
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Farmers are going to get hammered with retaliatory tariffs on exports too. Time for them to find out I guess.
But they just wanted to have someone to punch down on the trans, the brown people, and force everyone to go to their church, that's all!
If they didn't learn last go around, do we expect them to this time. I remember during his first term, his tarrifs made China reduce purchasing (I forgot which crop) from the US. Instead, they looked to other countries like Brazil. To combat the lost revenue to farmers, he created a fund to aid them.
I watched a great video about this yesterday: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SS2dSOiMN6g
Tariffs and other limitations on exports from the USA to China have only helped to make China stronger and reduce its dependence on the USA, either by relying on other countries or by them producing a better product domestically.
That's also a major part of the reason why DeepSeek-R1 was much cheaper to train than OpenAI's equivalent models. The USA restricted exports of high end Nvidia GPUs and AI accelerators to China, so people in China had to do the same job with cheaper, lower-end hardware.
China is already far ahead in many industries. They have electric vehicles that can go 600 miles on a single charge, while most EVs in the USA barely get half of that. People in other countries are enjoying their cheap Chinese vehicles, but they're banned in the USA and we end up with more expensive vehicles that aren't as good.
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