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[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 104 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

For months after I first got my (rescue) cat, every time I took a shower, she would sit right next to the bathtub and cry the whole time. I always wondered if she thought I must have done something really bad.

[–] GooberEar@lemmy.wtf 53 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, she was just upset that you were wasting all that time grooming yourself instead of spending it more appropriately on things like petting her.

[–] Spitfire@pawb.social 17 points 5 months ago

Rightly so.

Cats are the true rulers of a home. We are just their servants.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 35 points 5 months ago

My cat is 12 and still does this.

Comes in looks in the tub, starts yeolwing like I'm doing it wrong "you're not supposed to be in the water, water bad!"

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 11 points 5 months ago

Such empathy 😄

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 54 points 5 months ago (5 children)

PSA: Don't spray your cats. It not only strains your relationship, it's useless.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 30 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Honestly the best thing that has worked for my cat is stern words and a finger in his face. He makes a "how dare you" face but stops doing the thing.

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 34 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I hiss at mine, works 90% of the time. He just wanders off doesn't seem to upset him and gets the point across

[–] drasglaf@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago (1 children)

This is what I do too. I speak their language and they understand it perfectly.

[–] tetris11@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

꧁༺ 𝓓𝓮𝓪𝓻𝓮𝓼𝓽 𝓒𝓪𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓻𝓲𝓷𝓮, 𝓶𝔂 𝓫𝓸𝓼𝓸𝓶 𝓱𝓮𝓪𝓿𝓮𝓼 𝓽𝓸 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓭𝓲𝓼𝓬𝓸𝓻𝓭𝓪𝓷𝓽 𝓶𝓮𝓵𝓸𝓭𝔂 𝓸𝓯 𝔂𝓸𝓾𝓻 𝓰𝓻𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓽𝓻𝓪𝓷𝓼𝓰𝓻𝓮𝓼𝓼𝓲𝓸𝓷𝓼. 𝓢𝓮𝓮 𝓽𝓱𝓪𝓽 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓔𝓻𝓻 𝓷𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻𝓶𝓸𝓻𝓮 𝔀𝓲𝓽𝓱 𝓽𝓱𝓮𝓼𝓮 𝓯𝓵𝓲𝓰𝓱𝓽𝓼 𝓸𝓯 𝓯𝓪𝓷𝓬𝔂 𝓪𝓷𝓭 𝓬𝓸𝓷𝓽𝓲𝓷𝓾𝓮 𝓽𝓸 𝓼𝓾𝓹 𝓸𝓷 𝓽𝓾𝓷𝓪 𝓮𝓿𝓮𝓻𝓼𝔀𝓮𝓮𝓽 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓼𝓱𝓪𝓵𝓵. ༻꧂

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah that too. The issue is he thinks I'm mad at him every time a can of cola is opened lol

[–] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.zip 9 points 5 months ago

Ooh, yeah mine gets confused every time I'm dusting out my computer with compressed air lol

[–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

When mine end up beating eachother up because it's raining or idk maybe it's Tuesday, I pick up the one who likes being carried and plonk him down in another room. Otherwise there aren't really any things that they do (in my presence) that warrant stopping.

[–] LillyPip@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Staring straight at you whilst shoving something breakable off a ledge is the only sort of thing that typically warrants a spritz, imo. It’s not a good method to change behaviour (hissing is best for that, since that’s how they reprimand one another), but for blatant disrespect, a spritz will work – so long as it’s an in-kind reaction to shock, and so long as good behaviour is a bit over-rewarded afterwards (as if to say let’s do this good thing instead). It can be effective to get their attention, though.

The overwhelming majority of cats aren’t actually dicks, they usually have a reason for acting out, even if it isn’t obvious to us. It’s best not to be adversarial with them unless necessary, because they have a large emotional repertoire, including vindictiveness.

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago (2 children)

That's all lies. I've sprayed my cat like 5 times in his life, and lo and behold, he doesn't do the dumbasses things that got him sprayed anymore.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 months ago

I, too, like to ignore evidence in order to keep my preconceived bias.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de -5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

ChatGPT. I’ll never understand how people always downvote LLM content. It’s just easier than using a search engine to get information on something.

Spraying cats with water as a form of discipline is generally not recommended, as it can have unintended negative consequences. While it might stop the behavior in the moment, it doesn’t teach your cat why the behavior is unwanted and can harm your relationship with them.

Why it’s not ideal:

1. Breaks trust:

Cats may associate you, not the behavior, with the negative experience, which could lead to fear or anxiety around you.

2. Doesn’t address the cause:

Cats misbehave for a reason (e.g., boredom, stress, or instinctual behaviors). Spraying them doesn’t solve the underlying issue.

3. May lead to stress:

Repeated negative reinforcement can create stress, which might make your cat more likely to misbehave or develop health issues.

Better Alternatives:

• Redirect behavior: If your cat is scratching furniture, provide a scratching post nearby and encourage its use with positive reinforcement (e.g., treats, praise).

• Positive reinforcement: Reward good behavior with treats, toys, or affection.

• Modify the environment: Make undesirable behaviors harder. For example:

• Use double-sided tape on furniture to deter scratching.

• Place motion-activated deterrents (air sprayers or alarms) where you don’t want the cat to go.

• Address needs: Ensure your cat has enough stimulation (toys, climbing spaces, playtime) and access to resources (litter boxes, scratching posts).

If the behavior persists, it might be worth consulting a vet or animal behaviorist to rule out any medical or psychological issues. Would you like advice on handling a specific behavior?

[–] Magnus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

😂.

That made me chuckle. Naughty LLM.

On a level though I don’t really get the disdain for them as search is a nightmare now and it’s a lot easier to just get the LLM to do it for you.

[–] Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

Except when it hallucinates, draws from biased sources, or straight-up responds with false information.

I'd rather look through the available links myself and research the direct source things came from. AI isn't trained to look specifically for factual information. Unfortunately, a lot of people aren't trained for that, either. But we can still educate ourselves. Relying on a bot is putting one more space between the information you receive and the source that created it.

I'd rather get my information from as close to the original source as possible. Only then can I determine if the source is even worth trusting in the first place.

Thanks for replying. I prefer when people actually articulate their disapproval to something than just downvote it, as it allows the other person to understand more.

Your comment is very reasonable and it makes me think that I perhaps give them too much credit when it’s a subject I’m not an expert in. We have embraced LLMs at work as software engineers for small company and it allows us to save so much time on the stuff we do over and over again. But that because we know the subject matter and it’s quite easier to see when they’re hallucinating. I should be more cautious when using them for stuff I’m not familiar with.

At work I work for a good company and we save so much time making enterprise software using LLMs as tools that we recently got a pay rise and reduction of hours in the same day.

[–] nednobbins@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

When I use LLMs for search, I always ask for sources and then follow up.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

Why is search a nightmare now?

[–] Texas_Hangover@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No thanks, the spraying worked.

They call that anecdotal evidence, but if you actually look at the research then on the whole it is not ideal to do.

That said you do you it ain’t my cat.

[–] flames5123@lemmy.world 10 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Highly cat dependent. Our cat knows “no” so when she keeps doing something, we spray her. She still cuddles us in bed and meets us at the door.

The main thing was jumping on the coffee table. I think it also helps that our table lifts up, and we let her jump on the in between part, so she sees it as a treat.

[–] beastlykings@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 months ago

Nopopppooooo yoouulll squish the poor kitty!!! You monster!!

/s obviously. It's crazy how worked up people get online, how convinced they are that their way is the only right way.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works -3 points 5 months ago

It is not "highly cat dependent", there may be exceptions but the overwhelming majority conforms to the rule. Don't try to make it seem as both perspectives are equally valid when every single expert agrees that you should not spray your cat.

[–] Lifecoach5000@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Almost read this as “spay” 🫣

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I thought you should spray and nuke them.

[–] homicidalrobot@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

I thought it was pay and loot for them.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 28 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Accidents are okay, intentionally knocking them over is not. It's very very obvious when a cat does it intentionally.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 months ago

I love this. You’re a fair owner!

[–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 months ago

I'm okay with every human being above some laws