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Beyoncé claimed to be “bringing back black country” when black country never went anywhere. It’s incredibly insulting to all of the other actual black country singers and artists. Also her album is just bad. Like literally terrible terrible music. It’s clearly just a cash grab.
Very similar to when she claimed to be the first black woman to headline the Glastonbury festival and Skin from Skunk Anansie was like, ex-fucking-scuse me.
If it’s anything like what current mainstream country music has been since roughly 9/11 then no wonder the bigots love it when it’s not a black woman. Nothing out of Nashville has really been good since the 90s
It's perfectly ok not to like Beyonce.
There's some ambiguity in English here.
I think it's okay to be neutral on Beyonce. I think it's okay to prefer silence over her music.
Some people are weirdly active in their dislike of her. That seems strange to me. Like they have an active, motivating dislike of her.
(Unless you're coming at it via "no ultra wealthy", then I kind of get it, but I feel like people who got wealthy from performing music are lower on my list of problems than other ultra rich)
Agreed, I had a friend who every time it came up talked about how much he hated Taylor Swift. I kept trying to press him about what he didn't like about her, like the music, or the tours, or whatever.
And at the bottom of it he just didn't like the idea of a woman with wealth and power equal to her peers in the music industry
Was it the woman part or the wealth part? For me, it's dislike of the wealth and power of any of the current radio artists and their label execs, regardless of gender.
One of the... quirks.. of humans is that often we'll feel one thing, but say another. So someone might say "I just don't like that she's so rich", but what's actually happening under the hood is they don't like a woman having power. They might not even consciously realize this is happening.
We all do this to some extent. We feel things, and then reach for explanations. Preferably socially acceptable justifications. Someone might say they don't like a neighborhood, that it feels tacky and unsafe, but you'd have to do some digging to unearth "because black people live there".
At the same time, there are people who know their belief is socially unacceptable, so they'll intentionally reach to reasons the other people might accept. So you'll get someone who hates women saying things like "i just don't think her music is good", or "she seems bossy", or other lightly coded phrases.
This is all really confounding because it's very difficult to tell the difference between that first category, the second category, and a third category of "legitimately doesn't like her music." Sometimes there are signs, like they'll say "I just don't like that she has so much money" but then never, ever, comment on similarly rich men. (I'm not saying this is you, specifically. But if it is, maybe give it a think.)
Also most people are, frankly, fragile little cowards that can't accept a threat to their ego. Faced with admitting "I did a sexism", they'd rather lash out and blame everyone else instead of giving it a think and trying to be better.
The oatmeal did a comic on this, or at least a closely related concept: https://theoatmeal.com/comics/believe
You hate Beyonce for her skin color
I hate Beyonce for her wealth and ideology
Insert we are not the same meme
I hate Beyoncé because every time I listen to her music while skateboarding or snowboarding I get too hyped and then I get hurt badly. It’s the Illuminati at work IMO.
Dang body's not bootylicious enough
And I just don't like her music. It's not her, her wealth, or her ideology and certainly not her skin tone, I just generally dislike most pop music. That includes country and rap/hiphop, though I like many sub-genres (e.g. "rock and roll" from the 70s is better country, folk music, gangster rap from the 80s and 90s, etc).
If her music was covered by a punk, metal, or ska band, I'd probably like it more. Pop music just feels manufactured and corporate, probably because it is, and a cover by a smaller group feels more passionate, probably because it is.
You hate Cowboy Carter because you are racist.
I hate Cowboy Carter because I think racist country music culture should be marginalized, not expanded.
I hate her because of her voice and talent free acting
What is Cowboy Carter? Is that how I can find a link?
Cowboy Carter is Beyonce's country album.
I was wondering who that was supposed to be. The title actually makes some sense now.
I mean, they didn't really have to do that. It's already been done:
Luke Combs - Fast Car (Official Live Video)
He did it respectfully and didn't change any of the words, even when he calls himself a girl.
Who doesn’t like The Tracy Chapman version tho?
Read all of this:
The singer's 1988 song "Fast Car" -- turned into a massive country and pop hit this year in a cover version by country superstar Luke Combs -- was named song of the year at the 2023 CMA Awards, making Chapman the first Black songwriter to win in the category.
Though she wasn't able to attend the awards show, Chapman reacted to her win in a statement which read: "I'm sorry I couldn't join you all tonight. It's truly an honor for my song to be newly recognized after 35 years of its debut. Thank you to the CMAs and a special thanks to Luke and all of the fans of 'Fast Car.'"
edit: took out one of the bolds, she did receive a grammy.
Ok, but that doesn’t support the idea that people don’t like the song or more specifically her version.
She was nominated for song of the year and record of the year for fast car. She won the Grammy for best female pop performance, for that song.
We love her song so much she won a cma 35 years later.
This is a super false equivalence.
Except we're talking about country music specifically, not the general awards.
Anyone else notice they have a sexual preference in singers and music? I mostly like metal, and there are a few female singers I have liked, though I'm out of touch, having been totally disenfranchised by streaming, and bad with names in general. I tend to wear thin on female vocals. I don't know if it is the tone, texture, or content.
I used to put 5 CDs in a turn table boom box in my auto body shop and just let them play while I worked for 12-16 hours straight. It was mostly like Disturbed, Slipknot, Metallica, Alice in Chains, that kind of stuff. I can't recall any of the female stuff I tried, but I never kept them in the loop for very long. Dunno why really. Guess I'm music-gay like Red team
I generally find that people prefer artists they can sing along to and have it somewhat sound simila
I don’t necessarily select music solely for the vocals, but I typically find women’s voices much more beautiful. Andrea bocelli, don mclean, and hozier are notable exceptions, but Amy Winehouse, Adele, or even Beyoncé tend to hit me harder.
I'm kinda the opposite, haha! It's twenty years old now but back then I got my hands on the Beautiful Voices albums and I discovered some fantastic female vocalists (and a few I already loved). These days my most listened to band is without a doubt Band Maid, and my latest discovery is Castle Rat... It's not the fact it's a woman singing, per se, it's more something to do with lyricism and the contrast with the metal sound. Just like Serj Tankian's operatic singing vs the mad sound of SoaD, if you will.
Dude, those compilation disks were amazing, and some even came with DVDs of their music videos. I remember how cringy After Forever videos were, and how enchanting Floor's voice and interpretation always was. I still listen to VOA frequently, and those albums really helped shape my taste in music.
If you want a fancy treat, give both Diablo Swing Orchestra and Igorrr a listening to, they are amazing.
Maybe that's just in accordance with the normal style of metal music, where male vocals are expected / more appropriate. I'm surprised to learn that there are female metal singers at all.
Lacuna Coil, Otep, and Arch Enemy immediately come to mind, but you are correct - feminine representation is a small minority in metal.
I'd say it depends on the subgenre. Symphonic metal bands often are female fronted, such as Nightwish, Within Temptation, Leave's Eyes or Epica.
Check out the bands Savage Master and Konvent. Fantastic front women 🤘
It could just be the particular artist or their style. Most of the mental I like is male vocaled, but that's just a numbers game. I like quite a few metal bands with women leads, but there are some that just rub me the wrong way, like Unleash the Archers. But give me something like In This Moment or Amaranthe and I'm hooked for hours.
The number one Billboard album and album of the Year?
seems like it's doing okay.
I think this is in reference to the album being fully shut out of the country music awards. Not even a single nomination.
thanks, that makes sense. I didn't know that, that is some bullshit.
And its fucking CRAZY how that happened. People can argue that "Beyonce isn't a country singer" all they want, but her song "YA YA" off the Cowboy Carter album (my favey fave off the album) is an incredible song with just her powerful lungs alone, however, the lyrics are shit that White Conservative Country Music People should eat up:
"My family live and died in America, hm Good ol' USA, shit (Good ol' USA) Whole lotta red in that white and blue, huh History can't be erased, ooh You lookin' for a new America? (America) Are you tired, workin' time and a half for half the pay? (Half the pay) Ya-ya (Ooh-ooh, oh-oh) I just pray that we don't crash, keep my Bible on the dash We gotta keep the faith"
And in a later verse she talks about staying strapped with a pistol on her hip and a Bible in her hands.
Like...this is exactly the type of shit these people literally dream about.
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Which were themselves covers of black songs during segregation?
'Jolene' and 'Blackbird' were covers of black songs? Which ones?
John Lennon, who originally wrote blackbird, was heavily influenced by 90s hip hop. /s
Beyonce is OK, but I'm more of a fan of Rhianna, personally.
Not a fan of any kind of contemporary country music, though. It's my personal opinion that country music hasn't been good since at least the days of John Denver. The stuff they make these days is derivative slop.
Uh, In Rainbows with Beyoncé's voice would suck. I don't think that makes a person racist. us Americans are obsessed with race.
The Radiohead album? Don't see why it couldn't be interpreted by a woman.
You misunderstand American racism. They will never, ever, EVER say its about race. But if you go through what they don't like about something... all that remains is race.