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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So he's saying they've exhausted the pool of applicants so badly to replace that with normal work weeks, just 150% amount of Googlers or maybe 200% amount of Googlers?

Power and fame break a man. Even if he wasn't broken from the beginning.

[–] Obelix@feddit.org 6 points 9 hours ago

He just wants more money and doesn't want to pay his workers. Google has been laying off thousands of people in the last year, so there really is no shortage of applicants. They could have just kept their current workforce, maybe?

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 4 points 11 hours ago

What I learned working with Googlers. They were dorks. Big ass dorks. Who got used by women because for the first time in their lives. They were attractive to these women. So many broken marriages and divorces from cheating husbands. That they joked about at the Christmas party. It was an eye opening experience.

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 13 hours ago (13 children)

AGI requires a few key components that no LLM is even close to.

First, it must be able to discern truth based on evidence, rather than guessing it. Can’t just throw more data at it, especially with the garbage being pumped out these days.

Second, it must ask questions in the pursuit of knowledge, especially when truth is ambiguous. Once that knowledge is found, it needs to improve itself, pruning outdated and erroneous information.

Third, it would need free will. And that’s the one it will never get, I hope. Free will is a necessary part of intelligent consciousness. I know there are some who argue it does not exist but they’re wrong.

[–] orb360@lemmy.ca 7 points 11 hours ago

The human mind isn't infinitely complex. Consciousness has to be a tractable problem imo. I watched Westworld so I'm something of an expert on the matter.

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[–] Phegan@lemmy.world 57 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

He can fuck all the way off.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago
[–] jinarched@lemm.ee 20 points 14 hours ago

I don't believe a single word of this bullshit.

[–] oakey66@lemmy.world 149 points 19 hours ago (8 children)

AGI is not in reach. We need to stop this incessant parroting from tech companies. LLMs are stochastic parrots. They guess the next word. There's no thought or reasoning. They don't understand inputs. They mimic human speech. They're not presenting anything meaningful.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 42 points 17 hours ago (12 children)

I feel like I have found a lone voice of sanity in a jungle of brainless fanpeople sucking up the snake oil and pretending LLMs are AI. A simple control loop is closer to AI than a stochastic parrot, as you correctly put it.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

There are at least three of us.

I am worried what happens when the bubble finally pops because shit always rolls downhill and most of us are at the bottom of the hill.

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

Not sure if we need that particular bubble to pop for us to be drowned in a sea of shit, looking at the state of the world right now :( But silicon valley seems to be at the core of this clusterfuck, as if all the villains form there or flock there...

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[–] Jesus_666@lemmy.world 18 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That undersells them slightly.

LLMs are powerful tools for generating text that looks like something. Need something rephrased in a different style? They're good at that. Need something summarized? They can do that, too. Need a question answered? No can do.

LLMs can't generate answers to questions. They can only generate text that looks like answers to questions. Often enough that answer is even correct, though usually suboptimal. But they'll also happily generate complete bullshit answers and to them there's no difference to a real answer.

They're text transformers marketed as general problem solvers because a) the market for text transformers isn't that big and b) general problem solvers is what AI researchers are always trying to create. They have their use cases but certainly not ones worth the kind of spending they get.

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[–] LodeMike@lemmy.today 41 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Or just hire 50% more engineers? Or wait 50% longer?

[–] ristoril_zip@lemmy.zip 18 points 15 hours ago

with "hire more" you do run up against the "9 women can have a baby in 1 month" limit, but in this case it's likely to help.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

They warn us about AGI while simultaneously attempting to sell it to us.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Black PR is PR too, it's like warnings about weapons of the future and combat robots and antiutopia for many people worked as an ad, and they want that exact future.

I think it's the same with AGI. People think Skynet is cool and want Skynet, because they think it's the future.

Except it's a bit less, like real fascism doesn't look similar to Warhammer, just to a criminal district ruled by a gang, scaled for a country.

[–] PanArab@lemm.ee 2 points 9 hours ago

Karoushi is the new cool trend. Everyone is doing it.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 261 points 22 hours ago (5 children)

That's why I bake my cake at 2608°C for ~1,8 minutes, it just works™

[–] alykanas@slrpnk.net 148 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

Project Manager here, and where I’m from it’s common knowledge that 9 women can have a baby in a month .

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

And an eager young bride can do in 7 months what takes 9 for cows and countesses.

[–] isaaclyman@lemmy.world 47 points 22 hours ago

Or!—hear me out—one woman whose 8 co-gestators were just laid off by someone who doesn’t understand what their job was

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[–] schizo@forum.uncomfortable.business 118 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

"Work 50% longer weeks so you can make something that'll both make me richer AND cost you your jobs!" is not the motivational speech he thinks it is.

[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 26 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I don't even know what AGI is, and I read the headline as "rich disconnected from reality asshole".

Turns out I was right.

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[–] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 13 hours ago

That might speed it up, but that certainly is not a prerequisite.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 10 hours ago

Specifically, the women who report to him that he's attracted to need to spend 60 hours a week dating him.

Thanks for the input, Big Head.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 8 points 13 hours ago

I bet it would happen faster if this guy was fired.

[–] dan1101@lemm.ee 45 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Let's work 20 hour weeks then. Who wants AGI other than war pigs and billionaires?

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

For how many years? Cuz y'all ain't anywhere near AGI. You can't even get generative AI to not suck compared to your competition in that market (which is a pretty low bar) lol

[–] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 160 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

lol, because if they work 40-hour weeks they might create it a couple of weeks later

[–] TheFogan@programming.dev 81 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Or, worse, they might actually have to hire enough people to actually do the job. Why hire 100 people with good work life balance, when you can hire 60 people that aren't allowed to have lives or families.

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 39 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

If it's in reach working 60 hour weeks, it's also in reach working 40 hour weeks, it will just take 1/3rd longer. ;)

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 30 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Let's be real, it'll probably happen faster on 40 hour work weeks than 60.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

lots of evidence starting to point to it'd be quicker in 32 hour weeks than 40

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[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 17 hours ago

With all the rounds of layoffs they've had, their remaining employees would need to be quite stupid to give a shit what this disloyal piece trash says.

[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 62 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

If it can be reached in 60 hour work weeks it can be reached in 40, but nah mfs should rush to get themselves replaced

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[–] art@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

I guess we don't need it then.

[–] Sibbo@sopuli.xyz 58 points 22 hours ago

This is almost too depressing to be funny.

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