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Exactly.

I remember Mitch saying that the reason he voted against the second impeachment was that he felt Trump's Jan 6 crimes would be better adjucated in criminal court. And before that, I remember Linsday saying that if Trump wins the GOP nomination in 2016, the GOP will get "destroyed.... and we'll deserve it".

Never underestimate the ability of Republican voters to enthusiastically vote against their interests....

Yeah, I don't buy anything about how the public is leaning anymore. I assume everyone is conservative and will continue to vote conservative in every election until I see any evidence otherwise.

After the 2024 election, the public can't be trusted and the media absolutely cannot be, in regards to elections especially.

Never seen someone give up on the last sentence they were writing like that

Im not so sure it'd be that easy. The conservative media cesspool is closed loop. They will lie and blame the Dems for not making it break proof or some other BS and the sheep will eat it up.

We will need Dems to go onto the shows and blast the message day and night that it's broken bc GOP allowed I lt it be broken by an illegal imagrant.

I wouldn't go that far. The maga Republicans are obviously so easily manipulated without a shred of critical thought left that they will do whatever their overlords want of them.

If they're willing to brazenly attack Social Security, maybe they don't care about elections anymore.

I get what you’re saying, but I am also extremely aware of how fucking stupid the American electorate is, up to and including having all government support taken away and responding with “thank you sir, may I have another”. American conservatives are deeply stupid.

otoh, if DOGE really manages to mess up Social Security payments, there’s no way the GOP can recover.

Republicans straight up nuked the economy in 2008 and they were back in the Congressional Majority two years later. Same thing happened in 2020.

Gerrymandering makes many of these maps mathematically unwinnable for Democrats

People used to say Reagan and his courting of the 'moral majority' were going to fracture the party and cause it to destroy itself with the embrace of a massively divisive religious rhetoric. It's wishful thinking at best.

there’s no way the GOP can recover.

I want this to be true, but it just isn't. A third of the country will follow along with whatever mental gymnastics are required to blame democrats. Another third are just not paying enough attention and vote on pure vibes, if at all. If dems try to run an unlikable, centrist candidate with a mixed at best record it will end up a toss up. And the electorate at large will forget everything that is happening now within eight years.

Point to a second Republican that has actually been punished for their criminal misconduct.

Is Matt Gaetz in jail yet? Did Dick Cheney spend any time behind bars? What about Richard Nixon?

Illegal Executive Orders are still illegal, and obeying them is illegal.

You say 2 years, but the election is 19 months away and early campaigns will start in 8. Shit, we'll probably see the first early messaging by the end of summer. So it's no stretch to believe that some candidates for target races are being vetted already. And that means anger now makes a difference.

I'll celebrate (1) once it's come to pass, (b) the Democrats have actually started standing up to ... well, anybody, (c) the resistance has started to have irrevocable wins, and (d) all the people and institutions that have actively enabled this situation are gone.

I'm reading that in a positive light: abolish political parties (i.e. no more magic 'R' for the mouth-breathers to look for).

Everyone (sane, insane, benevolent, evil, corrupt, etc) runs as Republican. Nice little loophole.