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hold on. which one is which?
They were nothing more than business partners, in other words tools. They used each other. Musk was the richest man on the planet and somehow Americans thought that was a coincidence. Musk wanted to usher in an era of austerity to line his own pockets, which he got in return for funding and pushing for trumps election. Election's over, Trump taxes musk he fucks off.
It was inevitable. Two egos as big as theirs cannot coexist in close proximity indefinitely.
I was a psychologist until I got burned out.
During those years, I observed something countless times that seems counter-intuitive but is in my anecdotal experience reliably true:
Narcissists tend to actually like each other, and seem to bond effortlessly. "you're the best thing ever? Holy shit, I'm the best thing ever! We're so amazing it's awesome!" type thing. It's fascinating.
That's why I'm not going to be played by this. Elon and Donald both have something significant to gain by pretending to "break up with" Each other, Elon trying to detoxify his brand especially internationally and Donald by proving he isn't Elon's bitchboy.
They might be legitimately warring in public, they might be playing the media and the people, there's really no way for outside parties to know at this time, and I wish people would pay more attention to the people Trump is hurting than this ultimately pointless real or not catfight. Invoking Epstein is low hanging fruit, as anyone who isn't in Trump's cult and paying any attention has been aware Trump is an Epstein pedo for years and years.
Wow they are arguably the most powerful people in the world and they are having a public squawky slappy fight like stroppy toddlers.
Meanwhile humanity is circling the drain. We are so fucked.
Fortunately, America has an affinity for reality TV, and so they're distracted from whatever else this is a distraction for. I just have a part of me that can't believe what's happening.
Yeah, it really is hard to believe. It kind of eats away your faith in humanity. How could we let shit get so bad?
I try to focus more locally whenever I get bent out of shape over the more broad scope of life. I can reach out and touch problems in my area, and it feels good to get involved in trying to fix things. Will it solve Gaza? Will it solve Trump? Nah, but maybe I help plant some trees, clean up the brook in town, just get involved. Who knows, maybe it trickles up (ha).
Yeah, same here. Back when I was younger I was really into direct action. Big demos - there's no buzz like a riot, fighting up against the police lines - and smaller, quieter actions. These days, I feel like I'm a bit too old for all that - and looking back I'm not sure all those actions changed a single thing. Except maybe made me feel like I was doing something useful. Also, it was fun. And I still think it's important to counterprotest when nazis take to the street. But yeah, I'm more at the local level too. I kinda feel like getting engaged locally is maybe more useful than the big, flashy stuff. You can get stuff done, even if it's not big changes. Lots of small changes add up. Plus, you're meeting like-minded people, growing local community resiliency. If shit goes proper bad, these local community groups will become vital.
... I was not expecting this many people to (so strongly) take sides in what is basically a kerfuffle between two mega villains.
(Og) Nazis had a lot of infighting too, still fascist mass murderers.
thx for clarifying "og"
JD Vance is VERY silent right now, so I'm thinking this could all just be fake, and that the tech bros (led by Peter Thiel) are using all this drama to get JD Vance into the Oval Office. I don't think this is a legit fight...I think this is all part of their long term plan.
How fucking stupid do you have to be to think JD Vance is the next best thing?
Oh wait... yep you're fucked america
Well yeah, JD is great. He did things like... Gang up on Zelensky, so he's got the general Maga crowd s vote and he killed the pope, so now he's got the entire non-catholic Christian vote. Pretty solid.
There you go. Ignore the content of the screeching and look at what it's trying to accomplish.
You know what would also get a lot more Teslas sold in a correctly Trump hating world, and partially decouple Trump from the political fallout of the DOGE mess?
Exactly what's happening.
There is no denying it any more, the US is a very corrupt country
Everything is about money here and I hate it so much. But I can't find an exit.
I think they're both right. The government should cut all ties with Musk's businesses, and Trump should be impeached. That way everybody wins.
It hurts to agree with them doesn't it? Yet, it's so funny to watch them bite at each other.
"[They] detested each other. Which makes sense, because they were both detestable."
Gen. Sir Harry Padgett Flashman, VC
He's trying to distance himself because his company is burning and is using the media. Musk's playbook is to attention and boost himself like posting about dogecoin. Musk is using the media, but his Nazi views hasn't changed.
Never could have seen this coming… two narcissists that only get along as long as they’re powdering each others butts.
I wonder if Musk will get the Jack Ma treatment or if Trump is a weak baby leader that isn't as strong as Xi. Imagine the Republican party being weaker than the CCP.
But what about Musks association with Ghislaine Maxwell?
Is there anything more Pride Month than Conservatives having to watch their two daddies fight?
But they did impeach him, Leon. Multiple times. The trouble is he just ignores it.
Impeached from the House sets up for conviction from the Senate. We need all of Congress to go through for it to have any effect.
He ignores it because 95% of Republicans don't care about crimes, just the party.
Elon's going to lose this fight. All the other rich people backing Trump still think the snake won't bite them, and Elon doesn't have the same cult of personality Trump does. He had some good will for a while, but he's been burning that ever since the weird pedo guy thing, and that's nowhere near Trump's fucking cult energy. Forty years from now there's still going to be dumbasses and edgy teens talking about how they heard a rumor that Trump is still alive out there in the wastes that used to be middle America.
Elon doesn't have the same cult of personality Trump does
He used to, but then he started associating with Trump.
He really used to - remember all the iron man shit? The image of the benevolent billionaire who was going to open up space? I'm ashamed to admit I was tempted to believe too.
He lost the positive public image before he started associating with trump tho. I think what happened was he fired his PR team because he thought he could do better himself. Right around the time he got pissy and was calling that cave diver a pedo, the guy who saved a bunch of kids in Thailand. It was all downhill from there and I don't remember ever seeing anyone piss away so much public goodwill so quickly.
Im gonna be honest, I never bought into the whole Phony Stark persona but I did but him at the same level as Bill Gates, (no such thing as a good billionare, but he's doing SOME good things with his ill gotten gains).
The dudes brain is fucking fried for sure now. If he hadn't hurt so many people, id almost feel bad for him.
It seems he wasn't aware that his cult following came from the other end of the political spectrum.
Well, not quite the other end, but environmentally inclined business friendly liberals are still not quite Trump's crowd.
LOL yes let's impeach him again. We are stuck with this Orange Turd. Republicans have given us this turd and we can't flush him for 4 years.