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[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 12 points 18 hours ago

30 years ago??? in 1995. That was a great market and boomers bought way before that.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 4 points 14 hours ago

What could a house cost? $10?

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 9 points 19 hours ago

Oh, look. Another out-of-touch moron, with a useless opinion.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 18 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is some let them eat cake bullshit disguised as ignorance off her own industry. I'm not even sure who the fuck this messaging is for.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 8 points 19 hours ago

Rich boomers who are starting to suspect that they destroyed the world and need someone to tell them everything is fine, every single person under 50 is just whiny and lazy.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago

Moron, return to the 1950's and 60's, because that was the height of US consumer buying power.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 4 points 18 hours ago

I love whatever program it is that is job-placing these otherwise unemployable idiots.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

Stop buying Starbucks coffee

They already did lmao, my old town was cheering because two Starbucks locations went out of business and got replaced by local cafes lol.

Although tbf that was in SE Michigan which exploded in the cafe business after Qawah house started a chain reaction by accident.

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

im sure her name was just added to a few peoples lists for that statement.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 48 points 1 day ago

47 year old here.

Shut the fuck up you lying shit.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Can someone make sure she’s already on the menu? Move her up the list a bit.

[–] reddifuge@lemmy.world 3 points 17 hours ago

She got added to the Italian package.

[–] dumbass@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago (4 children)

How much Starbucks do these rich assholes drink to think stopping that purchase would get me my own home?

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 4 points 19 hours ago

Giving rich assholes more credit than they deserve: this advice is from the 90s. Boomers had to tighten their belts, pick up extra shifts, and scrimp and save to get a down payment for a "starter home". If someone one is a fucking idiot who doesn't understand anything about the economy for the last 30 years, they tell their kids and grandkids to do what they did...there's no such thing as a systemic issue, all you need is grit and give the manager a handshake yadda yadda yadda.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Isn't everybody drinking 25,000 worth of Starbucks a year?

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago

To be fair...back in the 90's, all you had to do to afford a mortgage was to stop drinking Starbucks.

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago

there are actually people who get it more than once every day on average, literally a hundreds of dollars a month expense

and the fucking dumbest part of it is that that's still not enough to put a dent in a downpayment

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago

The 0.01% has stolen $75,000,000,000,000 from US workers over the last 45 years, but sure.

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

ok, avoiding starbucks is easy because six fucking dollars for a coffee so they can pay their CEO 6,660 times what a barista makes, just so he can fly between seattle and sfo DAILY, yeah, that's easy, but that's not going to transform the entire fucking economy.

what boomers faced 30 years ago? lol, record low interest rates, cheaper education, much higher % of union participation, help me out here what was the rough stuff the boomers went through 30 years ago?

NO FUCKING TELL ME I WANT TO KNOW

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Boomers bought their houses in the '70s and '80s when the interest rates were 15%. It's a big part of why the houses were cheaper for them.

Not giving them a pass. They did have what is likely the easiest economy in American history, but they didn't have record low interest rates.

[–] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

In 1970 the median house was about 22k and median income for white families was 10k mostly via a single earner.

Minorities were of course fucked as usual.

You could save up and outright buy. Now a median household is 80k with 2 folks working looking at 800k anywhere near the jobs they work. With interest of course its more like 1.6M

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 3 points 20 hours ago

I more or less agree. The home price to income ratio in the US bottomed out in '74 at 3.62-ish. A healthy economy is between 4 and 5. The peak of the housing bubble was 6.78. Today it's around 7.05. We are beyond cooked and this lady is out of her mind.

That's a legitimate frustration. We don't need to pretend interest rates were at a record low for the boomers to validate that.

[–] PillowTalk420@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They had to watch women, black people, queer folk and transgender people exist and they were scared.

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[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If a boomer was buying a house 30 years ago, they were between 32 and 50 years old. They were not buying starter homes 30 years ago. They already had equity.

[–] Catalyst_A@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I was well alive and conscious back then. There was no crisis and home ownership was carefree. The 99's were awesome. She's just a lying removed. Boomers never faced any real challenge besides poor brown kids.

[–] obsoleteacct@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

So was I and there was a long recession from 90 to 92. Unemployment hits 7.8% and I believe there were a record number of people on food stamps. It's what made George HW Bush a single term president.

Their economy boomed under Clinton and with the dawn of the internet, but even then middle-aged boomers Warren tech savvy enough to repo the full benefits.

None of that is to say they didn't have it far easier than millennials and zennials. They did. But disliking them doesn't mean we have to overlook the facts. They were challenges along the way.

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[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago
[–] HowAbt2day@futurology.today 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Stop buying everything. Trade shit. Food? Ok, buy that and nothing else. Let it all burn.

[–] potpotato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] DNS@discuss.online 7 points 1 day ago

I try to sell my excess produce below grocery store pricing, but people at the meet ups always tell me how they dont have enough money or got no money, if I can give it to them for free.

Now I just give it to a food bank

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[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 146 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 25 points 1 day ago

Some of us aren't buying Starbucks you dumb twat. But bills still keep escalating. We don't need just Luigi. We need all of the Super Smash Bros.

[–] paultimate14@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago

Who is drinking Starbuccks in 2025? Just last month Starbucks closed 400 stores and laid off 900 employees in North America.

This will inevitably become "Gen Alpha is killing coffee shops". Fewer Barista jobs are available. The small, local coffee shop that is a nice quiet place to hang out or meet up with friends closes.

The problem is ghouls like her scraping value off the top of everything and hoarding that wealth like a dragon. Removing it from the system so their own personal number goes up.

[–] Two_Hangmen@midwest.social 191 points 2 days ago (11 children)

The median price of a home in the U.S. is about $460,000.

Let's say by some miracle someone is able to put 20% down to avoid PMI so the cost is now $368,000. On a 7% 30 year loan your monthly payments will be $2,448/month.

So if those darn Gen Z would stop spending $80, literally every day, at Starbucks, they could afford a home.

People that say shit like this are wealthy enough to be completely out of touch with reality.

[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

Sounds about right. Real world numbers... I financed ~317,000 for my house last year at a really good rate for the time (6.51%) and my monthly payment for the house was about 2100 a month. Add in insurance, taxes and PMI (basically no one my age has 60k laying around) and I'm sitting at 2500 a month.

Sounds insane considering the "luxury apartment" I left was 1550 a month, but the rates apartment managers are charging go up ~300-400 bucks a month when your first year is up. So in a few years, this house will be much cheaper than that shitty apartment.

Extra reason why this is dumb... Not buying a coffee will save you 3800 bucks a year. My house went up in value ~10k this year. Not buying coffee for a year doesn't get you closer to the house. The real answer is we need a maximum wage cap, and anything above that cap is taxed at 100%. Companies need to be forced to pay workers appropriately for their work.

[–] princess@lemmy.blahaj.zone 107 points 2 days ago

it's one latte, michael. what could it cost, $80?

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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 30 points 2 days ago

2016 - millennials should stop buying avocado toast

2025 - gen Z should stop buying Starbucks

2034 - gen alpha should stop buying socks

[–] TheJesusaurus@piefed.ca 97 points 2 days ago (8 children)

This would have been a completely out of touch thing to say 10 years ago.

To be saying it today is a choice. It's willing and malicious. She's just provoking people deliberately because the response is what she's after.

Ignore her

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[–] robocall@lemmy.world 62 points 2 days ago

I don't buy Starbucks ever. Where's my home?

[–] frankiehollywood@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

Yeah probably shouldn’t be listening to this person

[–] Baggie@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's really fucking weird for this article to not be pointed at Millennials. Not better, kind of worse actually, and very weird. Poor bastards have it worse than we did and they're starting to become the punching bag for no reason.

[–] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 16 points 1 day ago

It's just the sign that us millennials have gotten old enough to no longer be the young adults that these wealthy fucks punch down on

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[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 117 points 2 days ago (1 children)

CEO of a company that is actively making it harder for people to afford housing.

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

Oh look it's an out of touch white woman giving advice.

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

I think what we gen Z need to do is to nail her to a fucking tree and then use her as target practice. Or skin her and then use the leather we get from that so we can make a windmill that generates energy. At least that way she will have contributed something to society.

[–] wampus@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Eh, read the first little bit of the article, and bailed as soon as she was noted as saying stuff along the lines of "back then it was harder, because there were fewer desirable areas people wanted to live!".

In other words, back then you had cheaper options in the other nearby areas, which have since become unaffordable for starter homes. Nowadays you gotta move out to the middle of nowhere, where there're no jobs.

So idiot/detached CEO confirmed from my pov, her appearance at least matches her apparent personality.

[–] spykee@lemmings.world 41 points 2 days ago

Stupid fucking bitch.

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