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If America saw what America was doing to America, then America would invade America to liberate America.
They know. They don't care. They believe the "our country has been flooded with violent criminal illegal aliens" bullshit so when they see people being brutalized, they immediately think, "oh well they must deserve it. I have nothing to worry about because I don't deserve it."
First they came for the illegal immigrants and I did not speak out because I was not an illegal immigrant... welcome to the poem, you're living in it and just like the poem, eventually there will be no one to speak out for you.
Too much Faux Nooz.
If America saw what America was doing to America, then America would invade America to liberate America.
That would be the lie America would tell everyone. The real reason would be that America wants to loot America's natural resources.
Depends, how much money does America have, and can it be easily exploited?
America has oil.
And slaves.
Well yes, but the US has really has only ever done one war for doing slavery, and never really ended the practice there.
ICE = Nazis.
This was CBP, not ICE, but both groups are Nazis.
These guys are just the SS at this point.
And they should be dealt with as such.
So what sort of low risk tactics can we start advising for people in areas where ICE is active? As much as we all want them shot on sight, I think a lot more people are willing to engage them in ways that they are less likely to be arrested and have their lives ruined for.
Things like snipping tire stems, or paint splashing windshields, are still probably going to get you in trouble, but you have a larger chance of getting away than directly assaulting an ICE agent. But that risk will still deter lots of people.
I want the Internet tacticians to brainstorm something that my 60's white mom might be willing to do if she got the chance. Phoney reports maybe? Bad driving and eating a ticket? What can we come up with besides holding signs and recording for social media?
Rape whistles.
People have already been using them. As soon as ICE shows up, you start blowing the rape whistle and you don't stop until they're gone. This alerts anyone with brown skin to get out of the area and it also draws a crowd. And we've seen the videos where these fascist cowards run as soon as the crowd gets too big.
This alerts anyone with brown skin to get out of the area
I want everyone reading this to understand how surreal it is to have to type this sentence. It's a condemnation of how far we've fallen as a nation.
Pebble/lentil in tire stem if vehicle unattended.
it's what these guys were doing to protest large vehicles : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyre_Extinguishers
for the braver people, follow the French for inspiration. They were cementing cinder blocks in the road
Water balloon with paint isn’t a bad idea. Bad driving that prevents them from getting to their location, also not a bad idea. I think it comes down to context. You’ve really got to consider what’s going on and how safe you are by doing anything. In some contexts, your 60yo mom might get dragged out of her car and kneeled on until 6 of her ribs break. In others, you might be walking by an empty squad car, agents busy elsewhere, and you happen to have a paint balloon.
I have a very active, physical job, and I break a rib or two every decade or so, just to remind myself that I'm alive - it reminds you with every breath for a few weeks. I already had this decade 's break earlier this year.
So I know what it takes to break a rib, and what it feels like. I can't imagine the kind of force it took to break SIX ribs badly enough to cause internal bleeding. I've taken some terrible falls, and I've never hurt myself anywhere near that badly.
To cause that kind of damage to an unarmed person cannot be justified in any way. Surely they could have detained him without causing that level of injury.
And he was an innocent American citizen? I hope he sues the Federal Government, ICE, Holman, Noem, Trump, and the ICE Nazis who injured him.
Pay the man.
You legitimize ICE by using the terminology of actual law enforcement. They didn’t “detain” him, they assaulted and kidnapped him.
Valid.
And he was an innocent American citizen? I
To be clear (I don't think you're suggesting this), it should not fucking matter.
I can't imagine the kind of force it took to break SIX ribs badly enough to cause internal bleeding.
Unfortunately not that much force is really required when you're dealing with someone who is 67. The elderly are a lot more fragile, even if they are in great shape for their age. Which is why anyone without a brain disease knows to be gentle when assisting the elderly.
There is no reason to use this much force against an unarmed senior citizen other than to physically harm them.
Remember in the first Trump administration, when they were just practicing their cruelty, and they permanently disabled an old man for having the nerve to politely return a riot cops helmet that he had dropped? In response, the cop shoved the old guy, knocking him down, bashing his head, and destroying his life.
I will never forget watching that video, and as the old guy hit the pavement and laid there, a trickle of blood came out of his ear, and I knew he was seriously injured.
That was an accident, now they're doing purposefully.
What do you do that you regularly break ribs? Like sports? Or do you bolster the weight of something with your torso? I've worked a not very intense physical jobs, but more physical jobs than customer service or office work, but I can't think of how one would keep breaking ribs
It's not that often, just once every ten years or so. I fell off the back of a truck once. A five foot fall onto your side on pavement will do it.
Once I did it chasing a duck so I could pick it up for my son at a big petting farm. I was chasing the duck, it juked around a tree, and as I juked with it, I realized I was about to mow down a grandma and her little grandson. So I threw myself out of the way, and went down hard. My son was about 5 then. He's 26 now.
This year, I fell pushing a small compressed gas dewar, and the wheel caught in a crack in the sidewalk, and we both went over, I fell on the tank, and broke a couple of ribs. There have been other times, too. I first did it as a teen on a Boy Scout trip. Like I said, about once a decade.
I don't even go to the doctor any more. I know what it feels like, and I know what he's going to do - nothing. I can do that without wasting my time.
I have realized that most of my injuries have been caused by moving too quickly. I am trying to measure my movements more carefully, and take my time. As I get older, it takes longer to recover.
For those who only know about Chicago from the news:
Old Irving Park is a nice, mostly residential historic neighborhood on the northwest side. It's not the nicest or fanciest (those are more toward the lake) but it's definitely on the upper end. It's a neighborhood someone in a high rise might move to when you have a family.
Bonus fact: Chicagoans mostly stick to normal pizza. Deep dish is for tourists.
Deep dish is delicious, but it's also expensive. One of the great things about pizza is that it's supposed to be cheap.
It's expensive, hard to eat, and heavy. Thin crust keeps the party going, deep dish makes you sleepy.
Real "Chicago pizza" is tavern-style thin crust, yum.
speak for yourself. deep dish is awesome. but yeah I would live in old irving in heartbeat and a friend of mine used to live in the area.
Things banned in #LandoftheFree:
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Fyi, I would not have dared to make this Lemmy account if I weren't a US Citizen, but even so, I still wonder when gestapo comes to my door, given how things are going.
If my account ever becomes inactive, either I forgot the password, or I'm in Gitmo.
Excercising (because running = crime)
Dude wasn't even running. He was in his car just trying to go home after running. Turned onto his street and got pulled out of his car and assaulted.
ICEIS
So. Where are the Bikers? Seriously. What the fuck happened to bikers looking after their community?
They went maga i guess ?
I cannot WAIT for the hammer to fall. Nazis were not this bad to their own citizens. I read an article that said the Republicans are planning to escape to Venezuela if the mid terms go bad for them. These fucking Democrat pussy politicians better prosecute ICE and everyone involved in this.
Trump is literally trying to provoke confrontation were none is so he can have a weak ass justification to clamp down harder .. just in time for mid terms.
He is a fucking traitor.
that's a lot of taxpayer money going to this guy's medical expenses and compensation for suffering
As if that claim for damages won't be denied .
ICE "He only has six broken ribs so far."
Nazi America living up to its new name again.
All the Italian plumbers out there know exactly where Greg Bovino is going to be at 5:45pm.
Just sayin'.
Evil
Pepper spray is cheap and effective folks. I'd advise protecting yourself out there.
I hate the "allegedly" part.