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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Fyi, death by guillotine is actually incredibly ethical and humane.

Infact, in modern research, rats that are used in research and then killed are done so via a guillotine.

A friend was a pharmacologist researcher and told me that they gave them a little ketamine so they were out of it then cut their heads off. It's quick. They die within a few seconds.

Contrary to popular belief. Breaking the neck or even cutting it through does not result in instant death. Only paralysis. Though severed head is faster death. (Fastest death is obliteration of brain stem).

Many of the nerves that control the face actually run down into the neck and enter the spine there. So cutting off the head, at the base of the skull, also paralyzes the face.

It's sort of how people think that since fish can't scream they don't feel pain. That's stupid.

Just cause the head can't scream, Don't mean it's dead. I suspect that's why so many think breaking someone's neck or cutting off their head is "instant". It's definitely "certain death" but it's not instant.

It takes a little bit of time for oxygen to be deprived from the brain enough to cause unconscious and then death.

Breaking the neck or severing the head isn't immediate death. Someone with a broken neck (even if it causes face nerves to be severed) may stay alive/conscience up to a minute or two. Just paralyzed. Knowing they can't breathe. Knowing death is coming.

Terrifying.

So the gallows it is for the traitors.

I think we can agree only some of them deserve the guillotine.

[–] 0ndead@infosec.pub 2 points 15 hours ago

You misspelled gallows Steve

[–] Tigeroovy@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a good thing for them that I don't get to make the decisions, because prison would not be what I decide.

[–] cmbabul@slrpnk.net 29 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bannon is a piece of shit ghoul but of MAGAs most influential assholes he’s ones of the few that has enough guile to understand what will happen if they somehow lose the gambit they’ve embarked upon. Things are only going to escalate from here after the big loses they suffered Tuesday and as the economy continues to ride a unicycle on a 2x4 across the Grand Canyon

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bannon is a piece of shit ghoul but of MAGAs most influential assholes he’s ones of the few that has enough guile to understand what will happen if they somehow lose the gambit they’ve embarked upon.

I wonder if Bannon and trump internally refer to this future state as being Bolsonaro'd.

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

The system will not deliver justice. People's justice might not be as kind as what Bolsonaro's getting.

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[–] MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 26 points 1 day ago (2 children)

If a 2028 Democratic presidential candidate has any platform other than arresting Republican figureheads, I will not support them. Lawbreakers and criminals belong in prison.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I'll be honest, I would not have had the left campaigning on "lock him up" but I'm not sure there can be any other option.

If they cop out with some unity bullshit it will just happen again in 4 years when people forget or decide they need a change or whatever.

Yay 2 party systems.

[–] atmorous@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Both lock them up and make america better should be campaign. With all the specifics of course

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[–] Heikki2@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

What a Treasonous Pig. I hope his bacon gets fried

[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 47 points 2 days ago

They need to be tried for treason, and punished accordingly.

[–] HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world 99 points 2 days ago (4 children)

That's a coup right? That sounds a LOT like a coup.

[–] derry@midwest.social 29 points 2 days ago

It's only a coup if it happens in the coup region of the world. Otherwise it's just sparkling facism

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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 184 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Alternate headline: Bannon tells GOP they've been doing just an absolute fuckton of crimes.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They are never going to prison. Democrats would never imprison their only chance to win against.

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[–] Doomsider@lemmy.world 42 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You mean the people who betrayed America and let hundred of thousand of Americans needlessly die in the pandemic?

Then cut aid to foreign governments so they could bail out their authoritarian friends causing hundreds of thousands more people around the world to die needlessly?

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Wow, saying the quiet part out loud, eh?

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They have been full mask off for a while now if you've been paying attention.

[–] slickgoat@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

That bastard sez a lot of things. That's all he does.

[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 107 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Prison? I was hoping for public executions

[–] Deceptichum@quokk.au 44 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Best I can offer is healing wounds, looking forward and moving on together. We need a strong show of bipartisan support, not a witch hunt.

/s

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[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you have to change the way the country works so you don’t go to prison, you should already be there.

[–] Tryenjer@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The guy is admitting to planning a coup; he's a terrorist.

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[–] ShellMonkey@piefed.socdojo.com 111 points 2 days ago

Maybe if you didn't do a bunch of blatently illegal/immoral shit that could solve the whole prison issue too?

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

That statement seems treasonous. Where is Efrem Zimbalist Jr. when you need him?

[–] KAYDUBELL@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

lol traitors don’t get the luxury of prison.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 49 points 2 days ago (12 children)

Don't worry Bannon, Democrat leadership doesn't exactly have the best track record of holding criminals and actual enemies of the people accountable for their crimes.

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

We're going to have to demand they do. When the time comes, we cannot let it go. We must insist these people face justice. Be as annoying about it as we are about the Epstein files.

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[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 30 points 2 days ago

These people have been gleefully plotting to form hunting parties to track and murder minorities and anyone who’s against their agenda. Prison would be too lenient.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Oh, Steve. If there's any justice in the world, you'll never see the inside of a prison. Just the inside of a blindfold.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

Don’t threaten us with a good time, Steve.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's not "those who will be targeted," it's those who broke the law. How is it that a group can claim they should arrest and detain/deport people for filling out a piece of paper wrong 14 years ago that had nothing to do with fraud, embezzlement, or hurting anyone. Just trying to work a 9-5 and provide for their families, yet this group can turn around and support people who are openly admitting they have committed crimes and should commit more while asking others to commit crimes to stay out of prison in the future.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I demand Trump and his cronies be arrested

[–] ohmy_science@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We will need de trump-ification like denazification in 1945 Germany

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

I don't trust the democrats to hold these genocidal maniacs accountable at all

[–] very_well_lost@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

This is what I thought during the first term, and yet... here we are again

[–] manxu@piefed.social 44 points 2 days ago

The core message seems to be: since Trump is doing everything by executive order, the next time a Democrat holds the office of the presidency, ALL of it will be undone. And some of it, in his view, will be declared illegal in the first place. Like, I don't know, the DOGE takeover early in the year. Or the imprisonment of citizens and legal immigrants because racism.

Biden didn't do any of it. He didn't even push for the Trump tax cuts from 2017 to be undone, which was insane. I sense that's part of the reason Harris lost in 2024, and it seems that the Democrats of 2025 are starting to smell the wind of change. Because the country and the voters forced them to.

I was horrified in 2022 when both Biden and Yellen went on the record stating they believed the high inflation was just temporary and not a larger concern. This time around it's Trump telling America prices are down and the economy is booming.

[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 33 points 2 days ago (3 children)

When by a miracle the upcoming 2026 voting fraud and roadblocks will be undone, and 2028's election is fair and brings a FULL landslide democratic win.

Then the Democrats must go full in on a blaze of justice and condemn everyone in the current administration, including local government, think-tanks and anyone who enriched themselves unfairly, as conspirators in an evil coup to convict them with the highest penalties.

If they do not ... the country will be lost in a prolonged smouldering fire of fascism.

A "national pardon" to keep the balance is not a proper solution to this.

But, read what I started with and you'll see there are enormous hurdles to overcome, I am not convinced the current administration will let any of it happen.

The king in all but name is already here, and 2028 will likely have seen the crowning ceremony.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Can some of these fuckers start going to prison in 2026?

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