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[–] Balldowern@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They should create a law that makes it legal for civilians to assassinate the drivers of vehicles who veer into bike lanes.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Ninja rocks, in minecraft

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Aka if a driver hits you and you aren't in uniform you get injury and a fine and some complementary salt to pour in any open wounds.

[–] bassad@jlai.lu 15 points 2 days ago

Maybe distracted driving should be made criminal offense first, and controls on drivers increased.

2 days ago a car driver in front of me was watching a skiing contest on his phone on the dashboard, last year I followed one who was playing candy crush.

I'm glad my daily commute is 80% on bike paths separated from car traffic, those 20% are why my kids can't go to school with their bikes and my wife does not take her bike.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If they're going to do that, they should also go back to requiring motor cars to be preceded by an attendant on foot, waving a red flag.

You know, for safety.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

This one actually makes sense as cars and automobiles are technically heavy machinery. Thus so, they should technically at all times be operated with a spotter outside of the vehicle at all times.

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[–] HaraldvonBlauzahn@feddit.org 16 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The thing is that the bicycle is the only means of transport for medium distances which statistically makes your life longer, not shorter.

The reasons are the health effects of cycling, compared to the health effects of sitting in a car and not doing daily excercise. The number one cause of death is cardiovascular diseases, which are also caused by lack if excercise. These risks are far larger than the risk of accidents.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 41 points 2 days ago (3 children)

This is fucked and no way something like this should pass.

Also if a cyclist is expected to wear a helmet and high reflection vest then car drivers should be required to do the same, windows should also be completely down with no music playing what so ever. If you go a cellphone or you are eating a burger or snack bar straight to jail for attempted manslaughter.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Im thinking the equivalent would be cars have hi visibility paint. I hate cars with matt colors matching the road. Can't even seen them without the lights on.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Just because they are being pedantic with their proposed regulations, I suggested this up thread.

Their cars and lorries also need high-vis striping, no less than 7 stripes front to back, and 3 wrapped around the body. The stripes must also be painted into the base coat, they may not be part of a wrap.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Their cars and lorries also need high-vis striping, no less than 7 stripes front to back, and 3 wrapped around the body. The stripes must also be painted into the base coat, they may not be part of a wrap.

[–] axexrx@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Require cars to have a governor that limits speed, either geofenced to anywhere cyclists/ pedestrians are common, or high density, (like within a town) or make them have self driving car like 'AI' cameras, that limit speed when peds/ cyclists are within sight, and either alarm/ brake whenever one comes within 10'.

[–] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago

This is how I go pickup milk in the mornings. /s

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[–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 39 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Y'all are missing the key point, if the headline and my understanding are to be believed. They're proposing making it a CRIMINAL offense, not a fine you misdemeanor, but a can put you in jail criminal offense (felony for you yanks), that's way over the top.

[–] nodiratime@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

They want to heavily disincentivice any cycling.

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[–] huppakee@piefed.social 52 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When there are road works they tend to close the high way or at least some lanes because a hi vis jacket doesn't protect you against speeding lunatics.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 30 points 2 days ago (13 children)

There are also a lot of photos of hi-vis roadworks and emergency vehicles that motorists have crashed into. It's almost like it's not visibility that's the problem…

[–] guywithadeathwish@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I recall there being a phenomenon where drivers brains actually filter out hi-vis jackets as "unimportant data" because we see them so much.

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[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 43 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Why does the rider need to be visible? Surely if the bike is visible that is enough. Part of why my bike has bright lights on it. You can't see me? Sure, but you can see the bike, avoid that and everything is fine.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Germany made blinking bike lights illegal because studies show that drunk motorists target fixate on them :/

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

But what if the rider gets off the bike? Then he could suddenly become invisible!

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 27 points 2 days ago

A lot of people park their cars on the "bicycle boulevard" that I live on, in order to visit businesses on the street a block over. Then they get out wearing all black and cross the street, and they're very-nearly invisible. I think we should have a law that drivers must wear hi-viz at all times, in case they need to get out of their cars.

(And helmets. Drivers should wear helmets. Head injuries from car crashes are still a serious problem.)

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 days ago

Then you just become a pedestrian, it is illegal to run them over too.

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[–] shirro@aussie.zone 17 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

As an Australian who has lived with compulsory helmets for decades I think wearing a helmet and high vis is probably bare minimum if you have to share with cars and not nearly enough if you have to use door lanes and deal with Ford Rangers and garbage trucks.

Unfortunately once you go down this route cycling partipation drops and its a net fail for public health.

Sedate cycling on seperated pathways and through parks gets lumped in with high risk road cycling. It ends up being completely inappropriate for the type of cycling most people would like to do (not high risk vehicular cycling).

Why bother building expensive dedicated safe infrastructure when people have a magical inch of styrofoam on their noggins and a yellow shirt to protect them from 2 tonnes of murder machine.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

"high risk" is relative. cycling is safe.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And then there's downhill mountain biking which I like to call "Cycling, with injuries".

[–] Railcar8095@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Highest risk cycling is motor vehicles not following the rules. If cyclists safety is the priority, educate other drivers, and enforce penalties.

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[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.vg 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If road safety is so important, it should also be mandatory for passengers and drivers to wear helmets.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Their cars and lorries also need high-vis striping, no less than 7 stripes front to back, and 3 wrapped around the body. The stripes must also be painted into the base coat, they may not be part of a wrap.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@piefed.zip 24 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Is this the same Ireland where a TD couldn't get into Dublin to propose a congestion-mitigation policy to the Dáil Éireann because he was stuck in a traffic jam for THREE AND A HALF HOURS? But, yeah, go ahead, discourage bicycling with punitive laws. What could go wrong?

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