I want to see that list. I hope no names are redacted.
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The odds of a celebrity suicide are higher today than normal
Didn't we already see the list in the form of the black book that was released years ago? I felt like it came out, and people were like "yep, that makes sense" and then nothing changed.
I’m sure that somehow some of the names will be left off the list “by accident”.
There's a very wealthy foundation that will stop that from happening. And there's a reason Melinda left Bill.
What reason?
Do you have a better source than a nesweek article that is completely based on unproven tweets?
I just did a quick google search to try and find anything in the other persons claims but there is
NYTimes which I can’t access because of paywall
A BBC article of bill gates admitting he had meetings with Epstein
And that’s what I can find after looking for a couple minutes.
Like “Trump”
the names will come out, people will make a big deal for a couple days, the authorities in charge will go "now now, you've got to understand", then people will move on to the next thing and the people in charge will go back to very publicly fucking children.
I think you're right. We're going to see some expected names, some unexpected names, and some randoms.
The unexpected names are already working on how they'll publicly say they weren't involved like that and without any further evidence it'll all just fade.
We'll say yeah, we kinda expected that guy to be an Epstein island tourist. But hey, there are still-sitting politicians who we know this kind of thing about and their positions are unaffected.
That took a while… enough to have double/triple/quadruple checked and "removed" most high profile names with any modicum of power and/or financial backing 🤔
Well I reserve my judgment until the names are published. We already know some of the entourage from previous journalists and reports.
If most names published are of unknown, foreign or already passed away individuals it would be quite suspicious indeed.
Amazingly, they all changed their names to [REDACTED].
There might be breadcrumbs in the redactions. Like
- Squee
- [REDACTED]
- Donkeydong Doug
Not Donkey Doug! He's my boy! I don't think of him as my boy, I think of him as my boy! Yeah, but it's more like... "That's my son right there, son." But not, like, "son-son", but, like, "my boy". But not, like...
I'm really concerned as to what names have been redacted from that list.
Oh I hope those 200 people are very uncomfortable
Seeing as some of them are the victims, probably.
Out of curiosity, what exactly does being on this list mean?
It will look bad on people who try to look ethical, but it will have no effect on those who don't. So the Clinton's would take a hit if Bill was on there, but Trump wouldn't be affected.
The right wing easily draws in one-issue voters since their primary issues are usually about taking away something from someone else, and so they don't require many resources and generally are accomplished more easily using unethical means than ethical ones. "It's just business," and all that.
Leftists tend to be more about building something rather than tearing it down. That's both more work and requires a lot of shared resources. So ethical practices are required to keep those resources from getting misused.
It will look bad on people who try to look ethical, but it will have no effect on those who don't. So the Clinton's would take a hit if Bill was on there.....
You mean Mr. Blowjob-in-the-Oval-Office?
Is getting a blowjob in the oval office unethical?
Like I know he cheated on his wife, which is unethical. But you chose to bring up the act of receiving the sloppiest top in that specific room as the damning factor and not the actual adultery which is a weird take.
In reality? Nothing, if there’s no further evidence of the individual’s participation in Epstein’s activities. Because of the shitload of people who encountered Epstein in various social settings without participating in his illegal activities (not saying they didn’t have knowledge of his activities which I assume was an open secret among the wealthy) it will be likely be impossible to pin individuals to crimes sufficient to result in a conviction in court. Plus, being rich and powerful is a disincentive for prosecutors to pursue crimes because of all the usual reasons.
So yeah. Nothing will happen to these people.
I can't rule out "nothing" completely, with the knowledge I have. It's absolutely something we should see, though. It will sketch out the whole picture in a way that allows people to exonerate themselves or be further implicated. If it's specific enough for people to have alibis, then that's interesting, and if it's full of plausible allegations, then they could become more damning. Consider that the details of what people are "accused" is likely to vary - are they accused of being on a plane with other witnesses? Who is accused of having extensive opportunities to have committed abuses during their stay on the island? What was the pretense for their involvement with Epstein and Maxwell? It puts people in a position to explain what they did or did not know about Jeffrey Epstein at the time, and for those claims to be cross-checked, where possible. Close contacts of the accused may be prompted to add additional information from their recollections or records, if they learn that they had been lied to. Another possibility is that the allegations are frustratingly vague and don't actually create a clear picture of any criminal behavior.
That they were requested to testify or give testimony about their experiences related to Gislanes activity on Epsteins island.
They're asked to testify because of other people's testimony, flight logs, pictures, etc. that place them on the island at some point.
What they were doing there is debatable, but there are implications; at best they were hanging with a shady dude.
Why now?
To distract from alien disclosure. /s
This is going to be interesting for the news cycle! Trump obviously, but who else? So Bill Clinon, Bill Gates, who else!
More importantly, where did they touch and how long did they touch for?
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I'm getting big "the reddit safe" vibes with this one. Going to be waiting a long ass time to see absolutely nothing.
Glad the names are being released.