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List could be released as soon as Tuesday after deadline for objections to unsealing of names passes midnight Monday

Nearly 200 names connected to the Jeffrey Epstein-Ghislaine Maxwell sex trafficking conspiracy could be released by a New York judge as soon as Tuesday, exposing or confirming the identities of dozens of associates of the disgraced financier that until now have only been known as John and Jane Does in court papers.

A deadline for objections to the unsealing of the names passes at midnight on Monday, nearly nine years after victim Virginia Giuffre filed a single defamation claim against Maxwell, daughter of the late British press baron Robert Maxwell, in 2015, that in turn produced the names in legal depositions.

A year later, in 2016, US district court judge Robert Sweet rejected Maxwell’s motion to dismiss the case, finding that “the veracity of a contextual world of facts more broad than the allegedly defamatory statements” and that Guiffre “was a victim of sustained underage sexual abuse between 1999 and 2002”. The parties settled out of court in 2017.

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[–] wildcardology@lemmy.world 77 points 10 months ago (4 children)

I want to see that list. I hope no names are redacted.

[–] Szymon@lemmy.ca 31 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The odds of a celebrity suicide are higher today than normal

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

A star is falling, make a wish!

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[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Didn't we already see the list in the form of the black book that was released years ago? I felt like it came out, and people were like "yep, that makes sense" and then nothing changed.

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[–] TheDeepState@lemmy.world 59 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I’m sure that somehow some of the names will be left off the list “by accident”.

[–] CarrotBottom@lemmy.ml 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There's a very wealthy foundation that will stop that from happening. And there's a reason Melinda left Bill.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] vxx@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Do you have a better source than a nesweek article that is completely based on unproven tweets?

[–] Nythos@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I just did a quick google search to try and find anything in the other persons claims but there is

NYTimes which I can’t access because of paywall

A BBC article of bill gates admitting he had meetings with Epstein

And that’s what I can find after looking for a couple minutes.

[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Gift link for the NYT article if I did that right.

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[–] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Like “Trump”

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 48 points 10 months ago (1 children)

the names will come out, people will make a big deal for a couple days, the authorities in charge will go "now now, you've got to understand", then people will move on to the next thing and the people in charge will go back to very publicly fucking children.

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

I think you're right. We're going to see some expected names, some unexpected names, and some randoms.

The unexpected names are already working on how they'll publicly say they weren't involved like that and without any further evidence it'll all just fade.

We'll say yeah, we kinda expected that guy to be an Epstein island tourist. But hey, there are still-sitting politicians who we know this kind of thing about and their positions are unaffected.

[–] Nix@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago

That took a while… enough to have double/triple/quadruple checked and "removed" most high profile names with any modicum of power and/or financial backing 🤔

Well I reserve my judgment until the names are published. We already know some of the entourage from previous journalists and reports.

If most names published are of unknown, foreign or already passed away individuals it would be quite suspicious indeed.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 39 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Amazingly, they all changed their names to [REDACTED].

[–] ook_the_librarian@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There might be breadcrumbs in the redactions. Like

  • Squee
  • [REDACTED]
  • Donkeydong Doug
[–] Sanity_in_Moderation@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Not Donkey Doug! He's my boy! I don't think of him as my boy, I think of him as my boy! Yeah, but it's more like... "That's my son right there, son." But not, like, "son-son", but, like, "my boy". But not, like...

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[–] Filthmontane@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm really concerned as to what names have been redacted from that list.

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[–] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Oh I hope those 200 people are very uncomfortable

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

Seeing as some of them are the victims, probably.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (7 children)

Out of curiosity, what exactly does being on this list mean?

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.world 40 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It will look bad on people who try to look ethical, but it will have no effect on those who don't. So the Clinton's would take a hit if Bill was on there, but Trump wouldn't be affected.

The right wing easily draws in one-issue voters since their primary issues are usually about taking away something from someone else, and so they don't require many resources and generally are accomplished more easily using unethical means than ethical ones. "It's just business," and all that.

Leftists tend to be more about building something rather than tearing it down. That's both more work and requires a lot of shared resources. So ethical practices are required to keep those resources from getting misused.

[–] DragonAce@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

It will look bad on people who try to look ethical, but it will have no effect on those who don't. So the Clinton's would take a hit if Bill was on there.....

You mean Mr. Blowjob-in-the-Oval-Office?

[–] Goblin_Mode@ttrpg.network 7 points 10 months ago

Is getting a blowjob in the oval office unethical?

Like I know he cheated on his wife, which is unethical. But you chose to bring up the act of receiving the sloppiest top in that specific room as the damning factor and not the actual adultery which is a weird take.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

In reality? Nothing, if there’s no further evidence of the individual’s participation in Epstein’s activities. Because of the shitload of people who encountered Epstein in various social settings without participating in his illegal activities (not saying they didn’t have knowledge of his activities which I assume was an open secret among the wealthy) it will be likely be impossible to pin individuals to crimes sufficient to result in a conviction in court. Plus, being rich and powerful is a disincentive for prosecutors to pursue crimes because of all the usual reasons.

So yeah. Nothing will happen to these people.

[–] bejergalbam@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I can't rule out "nothing" completely, with the knowledge I have. It's absolutely something we should see, though. It will sketch out the whole picture in a way that allows people to exonerate themselves or be further implicated. If it's specific enough for people to have alibis, then that's interesting, and if it's full of plausible allegations, then they could become more damning. Consider that the details of what people are "accused" is likely to vary - are they accused of being on a plane with other witnesses? Who is accused of having extensive opportunities to have committed abuses during their stay on the island? What was the pretense for their involvement with Epstein and Maxwell? It puts people in a position to explain what they did or did not know about Jeffrey Epstein at the time, and for those claims to be cross-checked, where possible. Close contacts of the accused may be prompted to add additional information from their recollections or records, if they learn that they had been lied to. Another possibility is that the allegations are frustratingly vague and don't actually create a clear picture of any criminal behavior.

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[–] psmgx@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That they were requested to testify or give testimony about their experiences related to Gislanes activity on Epsteins island.

They're asked to testify because of other people's testimony, flight logs, pictures, etc. that place them on the island at some point.

What they were doing there is debatable, but there are implications; at best they were hanging with a shady dude.

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[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] paraphrand@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

To distract from alien disclosure. /s

[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (12 children)

This is going to be interesting for the news cycle! Trump obviously, but who else? So Bill Clinon, Bill Gates, who else!

More importantly, where did they touch and how long did they touch for?

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[–] zxk@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] BobGnarley@lemm.ee 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm getting big "the reddit safe" vibes with this one. Going to be waiting a long ass time to see absolutely nothing.

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

Glad the names are being released.

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