Here in my district of the Northern united states crosswalks are considered discretionary suggestions to not go out of your way to hit pedestrians.
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In France, these days, you lose your license. Period. I don't know what the results have been though, but I think it's a fairly good approach.
Man I remember when they used to take away peoples licenses in the USA. Good times. It’s like the only way you can get people to recognize that it’s a privilege and not a divine right is by taking it away.
Spoken like someone never targeted by law enforcement in the US.
It was spoken like someone who made millions of dollars selling weed. Don’t break the traffic laws. Be discreet. Be polite if you get pulled over.
They still do, after multiple DUI’s.
Not in my state. DUI Dan is at large in Maine. We just all know to avoid him now. But he keep on going.
Or for owing money to the state for unrelated reasons.
If you arent wealthy.
Sadly my youtube algorithm suggests that people with multiple DUIs have few moral qualms about driving without a license.
That’s probably what I’m noticing. Thanks for articulating the real problem
In NYC you'll get a ticket if you stop for pedestrian crossings. I got a ticket for stoping and letting a pedestrian cross the road.
The taxi drivers are dicks, they lay on the horn the second the light turns green, good luck driving a stick in that hellscape.
There is no pedestrian crossing in NYC that is not either signed or signalled, so there is zero ambiguity about when you are supposed to stop. I'm guessing you are leaving out part of the story and very curious what the actual citation was. Regardless, your first sentence is blatant misinformation, please be careful about how you phrase things.
In Illinois pedestrians ALWAYS have the right of way. So not stopping for a crosswalk is a good way to see if there's a cop lurking nearby.
Which law does that break?
“Gotta fill my quota”
I was expecting this to be the "carry a brick"-trick.
Carry a disability stick with a hard metal ball on the front. Hold it out in front of you and if they buzz you, their head lights get broken
My answer to this question is generally "Cement, the more the better."
it's cute and all, but the real reason they don't stop is because the authorities aren't enforcing that law effectively. the places where people stop crosswalks do so because they'll get a ticket if they don't.
this may raise awareness, but won't change behavior in the long run.
when i lived more in the city and didn't own a car i would make hard eye contact with drivers when crossing. my logic was that if they kill me I'll at least haunt their dreams with that look.
That's a very outdated view of traffic engineering and psychology. People (and animals in general) don't stop doing things in response to punishment unless they have a very high chance of expected punishment, way higher that any society could afford in case of traffic control.
If you want people to stop, you've got to build the infrastructure in a way that makes it psychologically natural to stop. Some paint on an otherwise Amercan road won't do shit. You've got to visually and physically narrow the space for drivers to make it uncomfortable or even damaging for them to pass through at unsafe speed.
That low speed is also slow enough that drivers don't feel like they're losing as much by stopping, making them feel like stopping for pedestrians is a lot more fair.
Look at Dutch traffic engineering standards for pedestrian crossings. They're a car-centric country that puts a lot of effort into getting cars everywhere in a relatively safe way.
You can do the same thing without cops more cheaply in the long run. Just raising the crosswalks to sidewalk height completely changes driver behavior, as it's both a speed bump, and it's clearly communicated that the crosswalk is the pedestrians' territory that the driver is crossing through.
We can deal with most of these issue through design rather than a threat of fines.
I'm not convinced it's all about enforcement. In Portland, Oregon, there's not much threat of enforcement but cars stop at the slightest hint of a pedestrian crossing anywhere. Not sure how they pulled it off but there it's a culture thing, not enforcement.
Here in Denmark I can basically just jump in front of a moving car on a crosswalk (one without traffic lights) and if the car so much as touches me they risk losing their driver's licence.
I know The Netherlands is the same like that. Not sure about other EU countries.
The French will try to run you over, and the Italians actively speed up when they see a pedestrian.
In the UK you actually do have to stop and people do even Audi drivers stop sometimes.
even Audi drivers stop sometimes.
This sounds outlandish, I'm not sure I believe you. What about BMW drivers? Don't tell me even they stop for pedestrians?
BMW's in the uk are more like Hondas in the US, they're EVERYWHERE :)
Oh huh, they're more like Audis here in Finland
Outlandish is the idea of them using their turn signal.
"Using the turn signal is giving information to the enemy", every Audi and BMW driver ever.
I can already hear the carbrainrotten screaming "But thats dangerous, what if i run into it" as if the danger wasnt their own fault for going too fast and not yielding.