DST is the time in the summer. I favor year-round DST so that the sun doesn't set at 4pm.
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Congress would actually have to do their jobs and pass legislation without throwing 500 riders onto it.
They literally have it completely approved, it's just that they're waiting to use it as the base for whatever else they want to get passed.
In theory, individual states could choose to not do daylight savings time. Two states already don't use it and there was a proposal for Florida to get rid of it and move to the Atlantic Time Zone.
Yup. It's switching to permanent DST (which is what most people want) that requires Congressional approval. A state can switch to permanent standard time on their own.
"but then things would be different from when i was a child and that makes me scared and angry."
Because the hour of light in the evening is nicer than the hour in the morning.
I prefer the hour of light in the morning, hands down. Helps me get out of bed and start my day.
Now, if we could somehow just make it so sunrise was like 645am in perpetuity, I'm on board with that, but the stupid sun keeps moving!
Wasted light. People get off work and can't do anything outside. If you want light to wake up get a lamp.
Buy a head lamp. Same logic, no?
You need sunlight to do things outside like jog safely, hike, fly RC planes or yardwork. You don't need sunlight to get ready for work in the morning. Moving the work day so that there are no daylight hours after work is one step down from slavery.
Those are fair points, but the workday and my kids' schooldays exist, and my workday and other parents' workdays all coexist with this school day, and it probably does come at the expense of RC planing and hiking a couple months a year (except weekends), which also happen to be the months folks are most likely to not want to spend time outside because it sucks, although that's just my opinion from Jersey, and I'm sure there's places that are more temperate and allowing for outdoor activities in December through February.
Well, here in Florida, the winter is the only time to go outside, the rest of the year is so hot and humid you can't breathe. We are at least fortunate enough to not be so far north so our days are still longer. However, it is especially frustrating as everyone voted to have permanent daylight savings time year round years ago and the politicians have found a way to not enact it. That also highlights how fake the whole "Democracy" thing is.
That is crazy, especially considering we've got places in the US that do permanent time.
Yeah, it isn't even a partisan argument. Everybody, no matter their politics, wants the permanent time shift. ~~It is either pure laziness or just Florida's government purposefully thumbing their nose at their slaves.~~ Hanlon's Razor says it is likely laziness or the inability to figure out how to legislate it. Still, it feels malicious. (I looked it up and they did sign it into law, but the federal goverment has to change the Uniform Time Act of 1966. Florida could change the time to remove daylight savings time like Hawaii did, but they can't make the permanent DST shift that was voted in.) So it isn't Florida's government I should be mad at, just the federal government.
Much rather have the hour later than in the morning.
Is it something we need to do? I've never felt like it's a big deal. I like the sunrise/sunset times in the summer and it would effect my life if that changed. I don't like them in the winter but there's no great alternative.
BC/Vancouver just removed it but made it DST year round. My only worry against that is that mornings would be hella dark. For where I live, sunrise in the winter (standard time) is around 7:55AM, meaning that's crack of dawn first light. Spring forward, so 7:55 becomes 8:55, meaning our first sunlight of the day won't be until about 9am. Now, our evenings will be a bit longer (sunset is around 4-4:30, so now 5-5:30, but still most people won't even see sunrise.
A lot of people, schoolchildren included, are up way before sunrise anyway, regardless of where we put the clocks.
Personally, I'm just sick of moving back and forth. I don't care what we change it to, just stop changing it. Where I live, we get 8 hours of daylight in the winter. Someone is always going to be in the dark sometime, no matter what we set our clocks to.
You morning people already have the world scheduled around you. At least let us night owls get to enjoy a sunset in the winter.
As a fellow night owl, I don’t need a sunset. Just let me enjoy the peaceful darkness.

I used to be in the make-DST-permanent camp because I enjoy it being lighter later. Then I saw a set of US maps illustrating sunrises before 7am and sunsets after 5pm. Permanent DST completely hoses the western areas of the time zones. I can't in good conscience support that option anymore. Ditch DST altogether, and just make standard time permanent.
Personally, I'd rather have it dark on the way to work than night before I get home.
I live basically on the border on the US side and pray that BC changing will allow WA to change.
Full DST is better imo. Having light after work/school/the day makes the dark months so much more tolerable. Helps alleviate my SAD partially, personally.
I just get up later. I don't get it. The day is the same, just shift when you do things.
I know in some places in the world they do just that: stores have summer and winter hours. It's that simple. The clock doesn't change, your schedule does.
That's how it should be of course. Problem is businesses and companies still follow standard business hours and make their employees show up at the same time no matter if DST is in effect or not.
We keep DST for more months than ST so I think more people like it more.
I kinda think it runs backwards, making the sun set even earlier in the clock day during winter. So much more dispiriting to come home in the dark than to go to work in the dark.
My argument for ending it is that you can't make days longer or shorter by moving the clock around, but I think we should just keep adding weeks onto DST and taking them away from ST until eventually it's just DST. But settling on either scheme would be ok, better than switching back and forth.
We tried it once, and quickly went back, is one.
Might be a case of greener grass. Virtually none of us has lived without it, apart from Arizona, so we just don't know what we have.
We quickly went back because one news story which blew a completely unrelated traffic incident out of proportion, and the driver blamed the time change for it. Despite living somewhere like Florida which was barely affected by the difference in sunlight.
Unless that was a well organized and faithful attempt to switch, that shouldn't prohibit us from trying again.
They last tried DST “year-round” starting in January 1974 and people quickly hated it, with support dropping from 79% before it started to 42% three months in. Morning accidents increased and schoolchildren were injured or killed.
I don’t necessarily love the idea of the sun starting to rise as early as 4am in the summer, but I think if we’re going to stay with one we might as well stick to standard time year-round. We’d still have light past 8 PM where I live and it would mean activities better for the dark could start earlier. I see places wanting to take advantage of the warm weather for things like outdoor movies but they can’t start until after 9.