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I'm a healthy outdoorsy athletic woman, never touched drugs or alcohol or junk food, a lifestyle which is intentional & ESSENTIAL criteria I work hard for.

So WHY the only men who approach me with amorous intentions are unhealthy, cigarette, alcohol, junk food men??

Update: Thank you for your thoughtful responses & the humorous ones too. I upvoted my favorites & laughed at the funnies and you've given me plenty to think about & work on.

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[–] blarghly@lemmy.world 73 points 17 hours ago

Two reasons.

I think /u/trem gives a reasonable statitical explaination. But it likely goes farther than that. The reality is, these days it is generally considered impolite to start a conversation with a stranger without pretense, and especially so to start a conversation with a woman with romantic intentions. The zeitgeist of our time is that women, by default, are not interested in men's advances, and that making an advance on a woman for no reason other than her physical appearance (which is all you can know before approaching) is chauvinistic. Thus, almost all intelligent, pro-social men have been trained not to make advances on women they might be interested in in public. So who are you left with? The dumb, not-forward-thinking, idgaf crowd. The kind that spend every night at the bar, and then don't care if anyone thinks they are a trashy peice of shit. And so that's who approaches you.

The second reason is probably something about the vibe you are giving off. Reading your post here, and a few of your other comments on lemmy, I get the impression that you are walking around with an expression like you have a smear of shit under your nose. Like, I get that you aren't interested in these men - but the way you say it, you sound like a very judgemental person who believes she is better than everyone else because she doesn't eat fast food or something. And the problem with this vibe you are giving off is that it is going to repel the guys you want to attract - healthy, ambitious, intelligent, nice guys who want a healthy, ambitious, intelligent, nice girl. Maybe they interact with you a bit and think "oh, she's judgemental, I don't want to date her." Or maybe they simply see the default look on your face and say "hmm, she looks pissed - I bet she'd yell at me if I tried to talk to her." The girls who get lots of attention from attractive guys are the ones with golden retriever energy - they love meeting everyone, which means the attractive guys feel less nervous about striking up a conversation and asking them out. It reassures them that, even if this girl isn't interested, she will at least be nice about it.

[–] CombatWombat@feddit.online 68 points 18 hours ago

I suspect what you're finding is that the kind of men who make amorous advances aren't the kind of men you're interested in, and the kind of men you're interested in don't make amorous advances. Have you tried amorously approaching a man who you're interested in?

[–] trem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Not sure, if you're actually looking for an explanation or rather just want to rant and/or hope for dating tips, but maybe still helpful to be aware of:

Diagram of a normal distribution

With your specific expectations, you're somewhere to the far left or far right, whichever way you want to read it.
For example, this graph could be applied to alcohol consumption, with 0 on the left and lots on the right. Then you're on the far left.

The Y-axis shows how many people exist in that range. There's some median alcohol consumption, which is going to be in the center of this diagram, where most people are. At 0 alcohol consumption, there's very few people, because it's an extreme.

Obviously, this simplifies a lot. In a real survey, there's probably actually somewhat of a bump at 0 alcohol, because certain religions prohibit consumption.
But yeah, in general, you're hoping for relatively many extremes, so the number of people that match that are quite low. You will naturally get magnitudes more romantic interest from Average Joes, because there's just magnitudes more of them.

As somebody else already said, try to find groups that naturally attract folks from the extremes that you look for, like outdoor sports groups.
Online dating, as problematic as it is, can also be rather good at finding very specific extremes.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

Haha, I came here to say the same thing. Basically the average person (at least in the US) will probably be overweight (4 in 10 adult men are obese in the US - https://www.cdc.gov/obesity/data-and-statistics/adult-obesity-prevalence-maps.html)

Add in any other negative factor (smoking, drinking, misogynistic) and you're probably covering 60-70% of the men in the US!

I've made myself sad with data :(

[–] HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca 42 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

A stats lesson in response to a dating question?! Awesome

Thank you for taking the time to write that

[–] Triumph@fedia.io 12 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

86.9% of all statistics are made up on the spot.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

27.3% of people know that

[–] pipe@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

Especially lies and damn lies 😆

(Not the case this time though, nice breakdown by trem)

[–] BorgDrone@feddit.nl 24 points 16 hours ago

The outdoorsy athletic healthy men are too busy exercising at the gym to hit on you.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 28 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

unhealthy, cigarette, alcohol, junk food men sounds like an unsuccessful clone of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It was very successful and it was called Aqua Teen Hunger Force featuring Carl Brutananadilewski.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)
[–] EbenezerScrew@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago
[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

HEY! WHATCHU DOIN IN MY POOL AGAIN, FRY MAN?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 17 hours ago

SVETLANA! BABY?

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 26 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

How are these guys supposed to know that without approaching you?

[–] sic_semper_tyrannis@lemmy.today 5 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Good point. Maybe she's suggesting she looks fit and healthy while these people don't

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 16 points 17 hours ago

That's exactly why I'm a drugs and junk food kind of guy. I just got sick of constantly getting flocked by horny women.

[–] dbtng@moist.catsweat.com 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

We want to ruin your life too.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Drag them down to our level.

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[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago

Maybe you're putting out junk food vibes? Like you have an aura of dorito dust and Marlboro smoke?

[–] disregardable@lemmy.zip 24 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

There are more of them that are single than healthy men. Finding your person takes time and effort, but it is worth it.

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 4 points 18 hours ago

It's a survivorship bias.

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Where's OP in the comments?

[–] JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 13 hours ago

I left my comment up top, updated the body text. Don't feel like responding to everyone individually because it's overwhelming & personal.

[–] MummifiedClient5000@feddit.dk 13 points 18 hours ago

I don't know. Are you a beer?

[–] herculeskan@lemmy.zip 17 points 19 hours ago

Cause healthy good man already had woman

[–] iamericandre@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago

Maybe try joining a running club or something more suited to what you’re looking for.

[–] THE_GR8_MIKE@lemmy.world 11 points 17 hours ago

Because that's the majority of us. Gotta do something fun when every day is a nightmare.

[–] Deestan@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

Hang around healthy men more.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Submissive om is a dead theory. I do not seek out anyone unless there is some indication of interest. In a truly egalitarian world, you are invited to someone's home. You do not show up unannounced or unsolicited.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

OP should ask out men who are to their liking, not sit around waiting for a fit guy to hit on her

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I've been sitting around waiting for a woman to hit on me. It hasn't worked out.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Exactly, everyone should be able to politely and safely ask other people out, without it being a big deal

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That would be nice. I'd probably still be afraid to though.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

ok, so you need to work your way through rejection anxiety ...

If you talk to someone you like, and they seem to be enjoying the conversation too, if you say "would you like to for dinner sometime?" what is the worst thing that could happen?

If they say no in a rude way, would they be the sort of person you wanted to be with anyway? Of course not (unless you have a fetish for that sort of thing)

If they say no politely, woild you want to be with someone who isn't into you? No, that's the route to a broken heart.

At that point, you know that more effort would have been wasted, and you can try again with someone else.

But maybe, just maybe, they'll say yes. It's worth the risk.

This assumes that you've gone to a bit if effort to make yourself appealing and approachable. ie. you make make some effort over your appearance, and do not look threatening.

[–] daggermoon@piefed.world 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

That's not really the problem. It's more so that I feel like a burden. I don't feel I have much to offer her. I'm loyal and loving but I feel like that's not enough.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

Ok, and if the tables were turned woild you not be interested in someone because they had your traits?

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone's able and pretty much always has been, but rejection can be very painful and a blow to the ego, which ceteris paribus is more uncomfortable for women so they only shoot their shot with men they find really attractive ("if the risk is always the same, at least go for the high reward", and being rejected by a guy who isn't very attractive can be even more painful), something that is rare.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This is the thing, realising you're not everybody's cup of tea shouldn't be painful - but it is because many folks don't have good psychological health

[–] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yup yup yup. Although to be fair it's a bit more understandable coming from women (the fact that men are very horny, horny enough to fund 99% of hookers and OF girlies, horny enough to fuck a McChicken even, can make male-to-female rejection seem even more painful), we have it easier handling our emotions (any man who's less stable than the average woman is evidently broken and needs to get on top of their shit ASAP, we don't even have luteal phases!) so I don't mind being the sex that approaches.

[–] SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 hours ago

Yeah, this also creates a lot of weird pressures on women who are generally horny ... that's what led to a lot of the more atypical parts of my life up until I hit early-onset menopause

[–] roofuskit@lemmy.world 6 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Join a group that gets together to share your interests.

[–] zuckey78@sh.itjust.works 4 points 14 hours ago

Community, solidarity, and connection. Find a meetup. Find your people, then you’ll find your people.

[–] arin@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What's worse is that some of them aren't even single. Go do the approaching yourself

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

No that's too hard

[–] nialv7@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago
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