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They say it can increase your productivity, and hot damn does that man need it. LLMs work best when manipulating input text along with contextual content. That sounds almost exactly like partially-edited manuscript and conceptual thought doodles plus several existing storyline books.

Admit it, if he dies before finishing, and someone publishes the result of such an AI output, you would read it. So he might as well get some AI help to finish it “himself”, sooner, right?

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[–] theywilleatthestars@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

No, I'm not going to read 1000 pages of slop

[–] cinoreus@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)
[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 hours ago

Finally lol

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Someone already did this. It did better following plot than anticipated, but it was bone dry and lifeless as you would expect.

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Funny, that’s very interesting.

And hey, it looks like AI might wind up a pretty savvy tool for writers wanting to keep track of their own complex plot maps and character webs, too.

See that’s exactly the kind of housekeeping help that might actually boost GRRM’s personal productivity without compromising his vision. I’ve never had to wrangle thousands of pages of my own narrative but I can imagine it’s inherently really slow.

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 12 points 16 hours ago

Admit it, if he dies before finishing, and someone publishes the result of such an AI output, you would read it

I think very few people would agree with this assumption.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 32 points 19 hours ago

Admit it, if he dies before finishing, and someone publishes the result of such an AI output, you would read it.

Why in the fucking world would I? It is 2000% more likely that there are already 50 better versions on AO3, written by humans, than this hypothetical having any value.

[–] stsquad@lemmy.ml 32 points 20 hours ago

I don't think an LLM is going to help him in untangling the sprawling storyline he's got. Besides I read authors for their vision not some synthesised average of their previous stories.

[–] ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

You do realise you're talking about a hopeless perfectionist at the top of his craft. For such people, suggesting LLMs is the worst kind of insult.

I'd rather he bequeaths the task to Brandon Sanderson, like a normal person.

[–] EonNShadow@pawb.social 1 points 9 hours ago

Unfortunately BrandoSando has already said he wouldn't do it because their writing styles are too different.

Also the dude has writing plans for the next 30 or so years mapped out.

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 0 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

GRRM deserves every insult for being unfocused and putting other work ahead of his task. Sanderson may be the one to finish extending his piles of chapter drafts instead of Claude, but someone is definitely going to pick it up after GRRM posthumously cedes creative control because he can’t be assed to finish it himself.

[–] hypnicjerk@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

do you ever just read back the shit you write and wonder how your brain got so fucked?

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I love ASOIAF, and honestly think GRRM is one of the (if not the) greatest fantasy writers of all time. He owes us nothing. He has created this fantastic universe, and a fantastic story. If anyone wants him to finish his life's work, his epos, it's him.

This kind of mentality that he somehow owes you to finish this story, and isn't doing it because he "can't be assed" is just so egocentric I don't have words to describe it. Yes, I want him to finish it, probably just as much or more than you do. I also recognise that the man owes me nothing at all. He's already given most of his life to this, and I'm enormously thankful for the universe, stories, and characters he's already given us.

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

First off, this was a shitpost that only one person managed to figure out. LLMs are garbage and the whole premise here is fairly ridiculous.

I agree that he owes us nothing. But I’m sure he owes the money people at Bantam or Random House something. Like actually, contractually, owes them. They will complete it posthumously if needed, using his draft material. It’s incumbent on him to finish it while he still has creative control.

[–] TryingToBeGood@reddthat.com 5 points 14 hours ago
[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 19 points 20 hours ago

Hell no, he shouldn't use an LLM to finish what is basically his life's work.

[–] leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 20 hours ago

you would read it

I couldn't make it through book 3 of that series. Oh hey, a new character - I wonder if they'll rape/be raped by a close family member or die hideously? Maybe both?

Martin endlessly confuses unrelenting misery for an interesting plot.

[–] SGGeorwell@lemmy.world 13 points 20 hours ago (2 children)
[–] leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone 13 points 20 hours ago

1980's Stephen King has entered the chat.

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

Vyvanse or Adderall

[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 10 points 19 hours ago

They say it can increase your productivity

Who are those idiots?

manipulating input text

AI in general is very good at matching patterns, aka pattern matching. Everything else mostly sucks.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 16 hours ago

No fucking way

[–] abc@suppo.fi 9 points 20 hours ago

We should use an LLM to write an ending to it. Publish a new one every week until he writes it himself.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 3 points 16 hours ago

...i'll take the HBO ending.

[–] solrize@lemmy.ml 6 points 19 hours ago

Admit it, if he dies before finishing, and someone publishes the result of such an AI output, you would read it.

No I wouldn't. I liked his early stuff but haven't had any interest in ASOIAF or other infinite series that show no signs of converging.

[–] cuboc@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Admit it, if he dies before finishing, and someone publishes the result of such an AI output, you would read it.

Using a huge plagiarism machine as a shortcut to creativity is a big no-no for me. I would think that any serious author (which I am definitiely not) agrees with me.

IMHO, the book series should have ended after book 3. Books 4 and 5 leave too much hanging, which is even worse as book 4 introduced a whole set of new characters and subplots. Even if he does finish the series, which I doubt, he has lost me as a potential reader.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Just make it yourself. Give an LLM the previous books via RAG and prompt away for the next book. You’re gonna use a shit ton of tokens though, and it might suck. But might be cool too.

[–] Mr_Fish@lemmy.world 8 points 18 hours ago

but it ~~might~~ will absolutely suck

Fixed it for you

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago

He has claimed to have already written lots of the subsequent material, he just doesn’t like how it’s organized. Having an LLM refine that unpublished material very different than asking it to project all of the storylines itself.

Given the mountain of unpublished work, if he has a heart attack tomorrow, someone else is going to refine it and publish it posthumously. There’s too much money at stake for that not to happen.

[–] HerbalGamer@sh.itjust.works 2 points 16 hours ago

Also you're burning energy for nothing.

[–] psx_crab@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago

It will probably land right in the middle, the blandest book you will ever read.

[–] okwhateverdude@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

This how I can tell you've never actually read any "stories" written by LLMs. It is soulless and full of shitty semantic gravity wells. Like, seriously, go ask your favorite clanker to write you a story. They will make metaphors and similes that are complete nonsense. The story won't have any real continuity. It will confuse characters, places, things in the scene, etc. Even something like Dungeon Crawler Carl with its pulp serial fiction and constantly shifting rules of world is vastly more coherent than LLM slop stories.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It is finished, the issue the ending just pissed some people off.

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That ending was dreamed up by Weiss and Benioff who were desperate to crap out something, anything, so that they could go make Star Wars movies instead. It’s not the real ending by the real author, and the TV series had already diverged from the books by that point.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 1 points 7 hours ago
[–] Onyxonblack@piefed.social 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

Just accept that he doesn't care and he will never finish it. The dude is a jerk for real.

[–] trailee@sh.itjust.works 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Actually I think the problem is that he cares way too much. He has written himself too many sprawling storylines that all need to come back together in a satisfying convergence, which is very difficult. The further he gets in the story, the harder it becomes to continue. He’s also a perfectionist.

He’s a bit of a jerk for chronic underestimation of what it will take him to finish anything, and possibly for taking on other projects that further delay work on his magnum opus. But I understand procrastinating one important task by throwing yourself into work on different tasks.

[–] ZeroGravitas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 9 hours ago

How great would it be though to just not converge everything and have the story end up in a horrid, stinky mess. You know, like the actual War of the Roses that inspired the lot, and completely unlike the stupid final season.

After all, who has a better story than Wym the Stable Boy, long may he reign?

[–] Eyekaytee@aussie.zone -1 points 20 hours ago

definitely, even re-do season 7 and 8 as well