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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 121 points 9 months ago (32 children)

So when corrupt preachers rake in tens to hundreds of millions it's tax-exempt because it's not a business, but when a pastor actually cares for the needy like their book says to, that's a crime because it IS a business?

Fuck that worst of both worlds nonsense! 🤬

[–] doingless@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

I work in a religious nonprofit that hosts a bunch of community service orgs including two churches, a teen volunteerism org, a food ministry that distributed 10 mil pounds of food thru the pandemic, a music nonprofit, an acting/drama nonprofit and more. We've been getting our ass ridden so hard by local zoning and fire stuff. About to drop $20k plus on a compliant oven hood for a simple oven like you have in you kitchen. I took a cut in pay last year because of this bullshit.

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[–] Everythingispenguins@lemmy.world 47 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I just fucking hate this shit, Life is fucking hard. Why go out of your way to make it harder. The D.A. is going to argue some B.S. about how the zoning laws are there to protect people. Fire hazard shit. Ignoring the fact that the pastor was putting people at a very small risk to protect them from a very large risk.

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[–] lntl@lemmy.ml 34 points 9 months ago (1 children)

zoning has never been about helping people

[–] Woovie@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] aidan@lemmy.world 5 points 9 months ago

That also happens in cities with strict zoning.

[–] betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago

If this article was about Joel Osteen and his ilk, "charged for offering shelter" would mean something else in the headline.

[–] PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works 21 points 9 months ago

So he’s the opposite of Joel Osteen? Sounds good to me.

[–] jackhp95@lemmy.world 20 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] Jajcus@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago

Bad zoning laws are bad. And these laws are really bad (forcibly separating 'business' and residential are makes no sense to me) , but completely deregulating that (like allowing residential building directly adjacent to a dangerous chemical plant or in a flood zone) would be as bad.

[–] ericbomb@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Hopefully freedom of religion does something helpful, as the Bible says 40,000 times to home the homeless and feed the hungry.

[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 3 points 9 months ago

Sounds to me like the pastor got that message. Nobody in the city's government cares about that, but he got it.

Good on the pastor for doing what he did. Anyone who speaks out about it, or endorses the charges laid against him should be ashamed. Honestly, you're going to condemn someone to die because of what? Because they're poor? Homeless? Does that mean we should treat them like they're not worthy of life?

Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. (Not you OP, I'm sure you're cool)

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[–] BWchief117@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

God that website though... eventually scrolled to a point it threw two interactive ads back to back, filling the screen, preventing me from scrolling. And all the ads were the same, like I saw it already, GOT IT, leave it alone

[–] TurtleJoe@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

Go into settings on your app, set to open links in external browser. Assuming your primary browser is Firefox with ublock on, you shouldn't have a problem.

Even opening with my Lemmy app's internal browser, there were two easily closable pop-ups, and the embedded ads in the article didn't even load.

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

This title is horribly ambiguous. I thought the pastor was charging money to let people shelter in the church. Instead he was being a good human and allowing people to shelter in the church for free and was charged by the city.

[–] GoosLife@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

...I thought someone was pressing charges lol

[–] HorseWithNoName@lemm.ee 1 points 9 months ago

I thought the church was in Wisconsin and didn't get where Ohio came in. The church and pastor are in Ohio, but the author is making a connection to the recent hypothermia deaths in Milwaukee.

[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] NovaPrime@lemmy.ml 39 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

The D.A. is the one to blame. Sure the zoning laws are shit, but the D.A. has discretion about which cases to bring and pursue. They could easily just move the fuck along like they do with any number of other cases they do in the year, but having worked with a number of these dipsticks in a previous life, I can guarantee you they saw it as an easy win and didn't expect to get the attention they did. D.A.s are just as bad as police officers when it comes to selective enforcement and application of the law and should be scrutinized much more closely during local elections.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

D.A.s are just as bad as police officers when it comes to selective enforcement and application of the law

That's because they ARE cops. They weren't originally supposed to be, but they do the exact same thing as cops do: put as many people behind bars or to death as they possibly can regardless of whether or not they're guilty.

Just like cops will get funding based on their "solve rate" whether or not they actually got the real culprit every or even MOST times, DAs run for re-election based on their conviction rate, no matter how many miscarriages of justice are counted amongst those "wins'

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 8 points 9 months ago

You probably also had people call to complain about the church "ruining the character of the neighborhood" by doing this.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Odds that the DA who decided to charge the pastor is a shitheel republiQan: 99.999%.

Let’s check the board . . .

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Interesting: the DA is a Democrat who said he will not seek re-election two weeks ago: https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/milwaukee-county-district-attorney-john-chisholm-will-not-seek-reelection

I wonder if an ADA is looking to pick up some filthy campaign lucre by prosecuting homeless-helpers.

[–] Byter@lemmy.one 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

That's the Milwaukee DA. The story leads with Milwaukee but the Ohio pastor being cited was actually in Ohio, specifically Williams County. The DA there is, in fact, a Republican. Though not necessarily a "RepubliQan" as stated.

Katherine J. Zartman (R)

[–] ArtieShaw@kbin.social 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Why would a Milwaukee county DA be enforcing zoning laws in Bryan, Ohio?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

A fair point - the Milwaukee journal sentinel article talks about people freezing in Milwaukee and then jumps to Ohio. I didn’t catch the jump and, honestly it’s a little weird. Still, my bad. Thank you all for pointing it out.

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[–] white_shotgun@aussie.zone 10 points 9 months ago

Another reason not to visit

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago (1 children)

This is a non-sequiter, given that Milwaukee is nearly 300 miles and three states away from Ohio. It's like, 'eat your vegetables, people are starving in China.'

[–] nixcamic@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago

It's a Milwaukee based newspaper. They're trying to tie something happening in their city into the story, pretty standard for local journalism.

[–] unreasonabro@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

this isn't just murican. this is super murican. Inception! Incursion!

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