None of those movies actually happened so it's ok
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The problem with the Kelvin movies is they are all pale imitations of Wrath of Khan. Dude has a problem with Starfleat. Dude enacts revenge. Wrath was a shiny red button you press once. They've pressed it four times now and each iteration keeps on getting shittier. As much as I love Star Trek, it's time to take it off life support. At this point it's more Weekend at Bernie's than Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.
Which quite possibly started the idiot bandwagon in Hollywood/StreamingLand of hiring people who do not like the IP. "It made money one time, so we should do it forever" - High Level Business Executive Thinking. So many promising projects ruined.
I would so watch a Star Trek parody made by Kevin Smith.
Spock has to fight a giant spider in the third act
This feels like it plausibly could have been done in TAS already
Burton's Batman films are top tier, though. If I get a great director with a solid vision for the character/story, I don't care at all if they were a fan before hand or not.
The first one was a great reintroduction to batman given the campiness of the 60's show it was trying to shake off.
Yeah it really got the Batman atmosphere well. I wonder if it's because Batman was such a cultural icon that even if you "didn't read comics" you till knew who Batman was and what he was about?
Possibly. Most people's first thought when they heard "Batman" at the time was probably still the '60s series, but Dark Knight Returns had gotten a bit of press already pushing back on that. But really, Burton's sensibilities just work with the character. Maybe it's whoever convinced him to give the job a chance we have to thank.
I will give JJ Abrahams one genuine heartfelt compliment about his Star Trek movies: they delivered on the sense of scale.
Particularly the opening scene in the first film, the cinematography (sans overused lens flares) and sound design was excellent and showed both the awesome spectacle of the sheer size of the ships and the awful danger of space combat.
That's something there wasn't the budget or technological capability to show until Abrahams-Trek and then Discovery and Strange New Worlds.
Particularly the opening scene in the first film, the cinematography (sans overused lens flares) and sound design was excellent and showed both the awesome spectacle of the sheer size of the ships and the awful danger of space combat.
For their flaws, the Abrams films delivered in visual spectacle.
The intro in the second film, where the Enterprise rises out of the oceans, to the awe of all below, is pretty much one of a very small handful of times where the Enterprise is shown to be quite impressive. It's a really good show of how a religion could form around it if someone is just a little careless with the prime directive. For its weaknesses, it's still a cutting-edge Federation starship, with advanced technology beyond our ken.
The first film had the fast-paced nature of Star Trek combat, but it fell into the trap of doing things like Star Wars, by having only warp engines be fast, and keeping a small distance between the ships. Impulse engines can trivially reach a decent fraction of the speed of light (full impulse can go to the moon and back in minutes). They should be no less agile at typical engagement distances.
Have you seen the Expanse? They had to come with narrative excuses to make combat interesting, otherwise it was just lobbing volleys of missiles from thousands of miles away.
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now working for the white house
Sheldon or the executive branch of the federal government?
(Made sense before they changed "whitehouse" to "white house")
For what it's worth, I found Star Trek dreadfully boring as a child. The trailers for '09 did nothing for me either because it seemed to be all references to a show I didn't watch. Wasn't until everyone at school was talking about how fun it was that I finally saw it. I had a blast. It made me want to understand more about the lore. 'I'd heard about Kirk and Spock my whole life, but who the hell is Bones?' Etc. Baby-stepped up to Wrath of Khan. 'Oh wait, this is a sequel to an old episode? Well I gotta see that episode.' Watched that and found the show way more gripping at an older age, so I went back and did TOS from the beginning. Then on to TNG and so on...
Slop still serves a purpose.
I'm a life long trek fan and I still haven't been able to watch more than a handful of TOS episodes
It's honestly my favourite to revisit. I'll put on TNG episodes that I love, but TOS is the one where I can throw on any episode and have a good time in one way or another. I love the balance of retro camp paired with that era's version of the philosophical stuff the show is known for. And the colours on the bluray pop so much more. I love the later shows (tbf I'm still only on DS9), but I do find TOS to be the most visually pleasant to look at.
Agreed. TOS has so much greatness. Episodes do such an amazing job of setting up a mystery and then exploring why [mysterious thing] is. Like the setup of Lost but with an actual payoff for watching.
I also think it has the best pacing of any of the series except maybe DS9. Episodes have more time to breathe.
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It's difficult to have that conversation without making assumptions about... Things.
But for what it's worth, ST is still somewhat popcorn in its subject matter.
i have been enjoying SNW. it was a good jumping off point for the larger universe. we finished a season and my wife asked to watch TNG, with the sole prompting of "what do you want to watch next", so on that basis alone it is a good show
I'm assuming you're a Trekkie and your wife is the newbie in this situation?
Picking the entry point of a franchise is a huge consideration undertaking. Lots of possibilities.
🌽 Cornrect🌽 . The best type of correct. We're both in our 40s and her family is a star wars family. I'm a "scifi is cool" person, during the console wars I thought both Sonic and Mario were cool, yknow?
I think so. In that era, I was PC and just knew Microsoft was a bag of dicks.
i found it too philosophical for me
yea thats why ds9 is the best one
punches omnipotent being in the face
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