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[–] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

One small issue. It's not 'Trump'. It's literally every US president ever, maybe except one or two. Maybe. And Bernie knows this. He's a smart guy. I don't know why he sometimes does this, but I don't like it when smart guys make less-than-smart arguments.

Sometimes I read or listen to him and think: "Hey, maybe some American politicians actually want change". Other times it's posts like this one, and I wonder if he really wants change. Lasting change.

Personally, I don't have the slightest issue with him calling out Trump. However, this rhetoric has one fatal flaw that so far seems unadressed among public or influential figures. Namely - if you keep blaming Trump for everything, that suggests that he's a problem - the only problem, even - not a symptom of a broader problem. And that removing him will solve everything. Which it won't. Of course it won't. But some people seem to think it will. And some will continue thinking or hoping so even after the fact. That's the problem.

[–] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

And don't forget the trillions of dollars spent on destroying apartment bocks on iran, tents of refugees in gaza or missile striking pig farms in South America, god forgive they used thar money on something useful.

[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml -1 points 6 days ago

do something, then. you are an elected official.

[–] Gork@sopuli.xyz 92 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Don't forget the $400 million for the Ballroom, which he said would be built without taxpayer money.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Or the up to a billion to refit a used jet for no reason, lol

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

I was just watching a video on that jet …… I knew it was a scam that the government was paying for so the orange clown can take it with him, but ….. apparently he just want to use it as decoration to build a hotel around

Which is another scam ….. typical donors pay for a presidential library or museum but he doesn’t want those. He expects donors to pay to build him a hotel to keep enriching himself through politics

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 1 week ago

The last figure I heard was $600 mil'.

[–] TheLegendaryAssholeOfJushinLiger@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Shouldn't have been named Joe, probably. He hates those guys.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 16 points 1 week ago

Average Sleepy Joe. What a loser. Wife gets cancer. Sad. Many such cases.

[–] Tja@programming.dev 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Same "Average Joe", 4 years later:

A woman? Ew, I rather vote for trump again. Or stay at home.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

His wife died from cancer, if he had to live through it every one else should too. (/s)

[–] chilly_legumes@lemmy.ml 1 points 6 days ago

this is literally my father

[–] Funkt4st1c@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unironically know people like this

Yeah I commented it as the mockery where people try to say everyone has it easy to the future generations. But then realized so many people still fall for that, and went back to add the /s

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

I can't even imagine America with a president like Bernie Sanders. It would be... Good? I can't see it.

I would love some kind of TV show where an actually good president would run the country, but we won't see that will we... Too dangerous. Everyone must think that there is no better way.

[–] hark@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (2 children)

2016 felt like a pivotal moment and we got stuck with the worst outcome. Sometimes I wonder how much different everything would have turned out if Bernie had gotten the nomination and went on to become president.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Fucking Brexit. I think democracy was defeated by non-military means several times in that era. I don't think it "just happened".

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

I feel like 2024 was such a pivotal year. Economy going well inflation getting under control, interest rates falling. We were finally investing a little in our infrastructure, our future. Progress toward getting college costs under controlEV sales and renewable energy were gangbusters, record amounts of public land protected from drilling. The 2035 goal for many states to phase out new combustion vehicles looked achievable. Federal state and local incentives were helping more homeowners switch away from fossil fuels, to even free solar for low income. More locally we had passed a millionaires tax going toward transit improvements and free school lunch. Some amount of free public university….. it was a great time to be alive!

We had made so much progress that 2024 was the first time in my life I thought America was ready for a progressive

I was so very very wrong

[–] EchoCranium@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

West Wing was a decent series. Portrayed an administration of people who weren't perfect, but tried to do the right things.

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[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Aren't they ALL exceptionally awesome until they get elected and nothing ever changes then?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unfamiliar with his career, eh?

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Non-american, so yes 😊 Enlighten me?

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's one of the furthest left politicians in the history of the country and has been consistent with it since the 60s.

If you've heard of him, it was him getting sidelined in 2016 so the Democrats could run Hilary Clinton. If you haven't heard of him, it's because that sidelining extends to his entire career.

I wouldn't vote for him now due to his age but he would have been a powerhouse if he won.

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I read often of him, and it always sounded like a very solid idea. But probably too good for the common peasant and hence sidelined. The orange clown seems kinda like the absolute opposite. So OK I guess I can retract my bitter statement. There might be good guys left, they just never make it. Oh wait, that's also bitter....

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean there’s a lot of truth to that. I was always skeptical that Bernie could work well with others enough to be productive, since he’s spent so much of his long career standing against every politician

Then the weird part is there was a surprisingly large overlap of people who supported both Bernie and the orange clown. So strange when you’re thinking opposite gaols, but perhaps it’s just that both were outside the establishment

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I find it more weird that the vast majority of the USA is probably piss-poor to normal poor, yet even those seem to think that a billionaire will care for them and better their lifes. And then wear maga-hats. Or do people with 6-figures think they're not poor? But I so would wish you guys that next election he might get a rerun, considering how the clown drove the USA into the gutter. I mean if that gestures broadly at everything didn't help to vote differently, then what would....

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I don’t get it either. Maybe people closer to median income think six figures is well off but it’s really not anymore. None of the people i know with six figure income think they’re well off, especially not in an expensive state like Massachusetts.

As a society we do a poor job of providing for our people, so there’s always another fee or subscription or tax. There’s always another person looking for a tip or to extract a profit from your needs

We had decades of headlines about the orange clown being someone you wouldn’t trust to make money from a casino, honor a contract, or pay the taxes he owed . He was always a grifter and narcissist, always considered himself above laws and regulations . Maybe all those years of negative headlines never went as nationwide as I thought but anyone in ny, nj, New England area knew what he was and have no excuse

[–] Dyskolos@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago

Maybe people closer to median income think six figures is well off but it’s really not anymore. None of the people i know with six figure income think they’re well off, especially not in an expensive state like Massachusetts.

Mustn't even be an expensive state. The fact alone that healthcare is bound to having a job, paints a horrible misery just 2 bad lucks with Bad timing away...

Especially considering that people tend to up their lifestyle with every additionally earned buck. If you dont save 90% of your 250k net a year, you're still just poor

As a society we do a poor job of providing for our people, so there’s always another fee or subscription or tax. There’s always another person looking for a tip or to extract a profit from your needs

Guess that's a global capitalism-thing, not just us-american. It's the same here. We pay the worst for the most important jobs (nurses etc) and then wonder why noone wants to work there anymore. But ceo-pays rise massively like everywhere else...disgusting.

Maybe all those years of negative headlines never went as nationwide as I thought but anyone in ny, nj, New England area knew what he was and have no excuse

I only marginally got news about him before he went gaga as potus. But I'm no murican, so that is obvious. Maybe people just forgot? Or didn't care, or did knew and cared but were evil. Or just dumb. I imagine the clown drove a big campaign-circus being "the change the USA needs". At least he delivered. He made the USA great again. Just not for the poor but the very rich. Who would've thought a billionaire would do such a thing, I'm flabbergasted.

[–] philipsdirk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

Regarding the TV show, I quite liked Designated Survivor

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

There was a community gathering in support of a rural hospital that's in danger of closing specifically due to medicaid cuts. Some of the attendees had signs and one of them said something like "Healthcare for All". Shit you not, 3 different vehicles that drove by shouted out the window some variation of "How are we going to pay for it?"

Of course those drive-by naysayers never stop to actually discuss it with folks.

Keep in mind, these specific people are almost certainly locals whose friends and family will ultimately be negatively impacted by the closure of the hospital and we were there trying to make sure the community knows what's happening, why it's happening, and what they might be able to do to avoid it closing.

Go figure.

[–] deacon@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

We already have paid for it, but our money is being mismanaged by the fucking idiots that those idiots keep voting in.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 week ago

How are we going to pay for it is an example of a thought terminating cliché. Much like It's just a theory referring to biological evolution. There are mountains of arguments to be made to the contrary, but for the indoctrinated individual, the phrase is enough.

See also, the clobber passages in the bible regarding LGBT+ folk (specifically gay men). Scholars might explain what they mean, that their intent is not for committed same-sex relationships as they appear in modern society, or that biblical mores are generally not applicable to modern society (for example its full endorsement of slavery). But none of that matters to the loyal indoctrinated cult follower, whose thinking terminates at the passage itself.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Maybe “average Joes” should start doing something about it

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 3 points 1 week ago

We could play dodgeball!!

[–] mohammed_alibi@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

So if medicaid pays for the cancer treatment, someone in the medical industry would get paid. Surprised that the medical industry is not lobbying harder for that. What's the point of charging and bankrupting the average Joe, as if there's much money there?

You'd think keeping your citizens (your tax base) healthy would generate the most tax revenue?

Because the docs and execs at the hospital still get their big nut, the raises and bonuses and zero impact to their benefits or retirement.

It's everyone else at the hospital that feels the cuts; elimination of benefits, no raises, bonuses "suspended".

Source worked for nonprofit hospitals for 2 decades...

[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

'Murica is a joke

Unfortunately, it was never funny

I look forward to watching that backwards shit hole sink into the ocean

[–] WanderWisley@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago
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[–] InnovativeInquirer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You have to remember that without all this accumulated wealth the trickle down economy would not work…

[–] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

People are just dumb. How can it trickle down if it hasn't overflown yet? We need to give the top 1% more money, so that overflows and starts trickling down! It's basic economy!

[–] InnovativeInquirer@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I know, it’s been 45 years of trickle down economics and the economic equality has gotten worse each year. People just love to believe that they somehow will be part of the 1% magically one day.

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[–] jdr@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But there's only one Elon, only one Bibi. If you pay for one Joe you have to pay for them all, and that's a lot!

Anyway millions and billions are peanuts now. The Iran war is at about 1.5 trillion dollars so far, and you can guess who on the list that benefits.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

The Iran war is at about 1.5 trillion dollars so far

The entire military industrial and state surveillance budget for the year is $1.5T. The Iran War specifically is running somewhere south of $100B... so far.

Of course, that's $100B we were told couldn't go towards public education or universalizing Medicare or domestic commuter rail or energy efficiency improvements to curb infrastructure costs or any amount of ecological mitigation from all the Drill Drill Drill we've been doing.

Instead, it's given us a global supply chain crisis and a new asset bubble and a bunch of banged up air bases and naval vessels. And, of course, a bunch of dead little school girls. Overall, one might argue this is a net negative for everyone involved. But you'd never know it the way the pundit class chatters on.

[–] Polisheocket@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

I will say, if we get universal health care the last team I’d want to implement would be the current administration

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

"true, but also he hates Mexicans so..."

[–] Hueristic_Autistic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Peasants would be grocery store workers while the Bourgeoisie are the bankers. The bourgeoisie are doctors, lawyers, the grocery store owner.

If you want to rise up to the level of the bourgeoisie you must suffer in your peasant life for a little bit to gain the happiness of the bourgeoisie.

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