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A long drive gives me time to think without the distraction I get when I don't have to keep my eyes on the road. I'd just grab my phone in a FSD vehicle and waste my time door scrolling as usual.

Bruh, I don't even like being a passenger with a human driver. I need to drive myself or I walk.

I like to drive. I like being in control of my car and, although I don't really care about "owning" it, I don't like the level of connectivity "Driverless" cars have. I'd never want one.

That said, I hate other drivers. Staring at their phones, not signaling, speeding, generally driving like a jackass. If giving up driving meant that no one else was driving either? Maybe. I just might.

I'd much prefer trains and buses, with reasonable cycling infrastructure nearby (to include lockable bike garages).

I’ve been driving for a few decades now and I’ve seen plenty of edge cases during that time where driverless cars likely wouldn’t do very well. A few recent examples:

• A car on fire in the middle of an intersection. Cars drove around it on the red light to make way for approaching fire trucks.
• I stopped at a red light at a construction zone and was watching for the light to turn green, and didn’t see a police officer standing next to the construction crew trying to wave me through. I finally noticed him when he yelled at me.
• There’s a traffic light near me where two roads intersect at about a 30 degree angle. You regularly see both the red & green signals for both roads when stopped. I’ve seen Teslas that misread red signals as green be cause of this.

I'm a "car guy", I'll give up driving when they put me in the ground. I don't trust an AI to make snap decisions, I don't trust it to prioritize human life over property damage, and most importantly I like to drive.

Trains

I want the self-driving car because I would be a really bad driver.
AI enables me to do stuff at a quality level I couldn't reach myself even if training the skill would be fun. And for driving that means I could get more freedom of movement without being able to drive.
AI is also about accessibility.

less of both; more mass transit

I prefer public transit

I’m a good driver, and AI is fucking stupid.

The only way you could possibly convince me to even get into a self driving car would be if my only other option was to get into a self flying helicopter.

Also, just to nitpick, the self driving car can’t “go rogue”, that would imply that it has consciousness, sentience, an understanding of what it’s actually doing, judgement, etc. a bunch of shit it doesn’t have. Self driving cars can and do “malfunction” frequently, but they can’t “go rogue”.

Don’t let the techno fascists’ constant anthropomorphic descriptions of their fuckware chat bots confuse you.

Considering the driverless car doesn't yet exist, I'll go with human operated.

I think automatic transmissions were a mistake. There'd be a lot less shit drivers if you had to pass the driving test with a manual.

By the time you solve all the issues with self driving cars you'll always end up with some form of train. So I would suggest skipping the extra steps.

I hate self driving cars for 2 reasons:

1, they don't work well. They're out there causing accidents.

2, who is in command? Who do we jail when it kills someone?

Less cars, less parking, less roads, less sprawling cities.

Trains, pls.

Modern day AI models? Nononononononono

Until EVERY vehicle is self-driving then no, I'll drive myself

I have intense driving anxiety and only drive around my area willingly, so self-driving cars (or just more trains) would help me a lot.

I have no car and will not get one. Those things are horrible for the environment and humanity. Driver or not. Cars sucks. Fuck cars.

EDIT: If I have to choose those around me, I want them driven by humans. A human will learn (some) when you yell at them that they are in a bike lane. I trust humans much more than I trust, say, a Tesla, coming from behind while I'm cycling.

A car nearly ran onto me recently while I was stationary at a traffic light. I suspect the driver was battling against his "auto-pilot" system as the car kept trying to drive on me in the bike lane, and the driver kept trying to correct it. It seemed like the computer thought the bike path was a car lane. Fuck the cyclists in it.

Plus, we have proper winters where I live and I'd like to see them self-driving during snowfall and snow storms.

EDIT2: A car is a multi ton vehicle that can easily kill other people. I want humans to have responsibility over this. A death caused by a car can't be easily dismissed, just because some kid or a deer didn't follow what the programming intended them to do. There should be less individual cars and more buses, trains, trams, driven by responsible people, professionals, that are accountable. The only sort of acceptable automation/self-driving are trains if they have a dedicated right of way.

Whatever can move the most people the safest and the fastest. Would love some great mass transit.

The more skills people acquire and use throughout their lives, the better. I prefer people behind the wheels of cars. Some automated commuter trains already exist, and that's cool, but driving is a skill that should be kept by the masses.

even Teslas still require a human driver.

That's because musk is a moron who made Tesla ditch LIDAR for optical sensors.

Waymo taxis are fully autonomous and are already safer than humans.

Humans are absolutely horrible at driving. It's a major cause of death. Computers don't get tired, distracted, or intoxicated.

I've never been in anything self-driving, and I'm not sure the tech is fully there. I do expect a future where various vehicles and such are all communicating with each other and able to move more efficiently, but I still think we should reduce the number of single-occupancy boxes on the road.

I'd rather take public transit as my first choice in any case.