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A 49-year-old Las Vegas man was arrested near former President Donald Trump's rally in Coachella on Saturday with a loaded firearm and a high-capacity magazine, the Riverside County Sheriff's Department said Sunday.

Deputies assigned to the rally contacted the driver of a black SUV at a checkpoint near the intersection of Avenue 52 and Celebration Drive just before 5 p.m. Saturday, sheriff's officials said.

They allegedly found the driver in possession of a shotgun, a loaded handgun and a high-capacity magazine. The driver was identified as Vem Miller, and was taken into custody and later booked at the John J. Benoit Detention Center on suspicion of possessing a loaded firearm and possessing a high-capacity magazine.

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[–] SeaJ@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The guy interviewed Ivan Raiklin a couple weeks ago who is the "secretary of retribution." Ivan Raiklin was on Info Wars talking with Jones about how if Trump were assassinated, it would be the best case scenario for Republicans because Vance would be the candidate then and then Republicans would commit a "cleansing."

This seems like a bit of a conspiracy against Trump but it is coming from the right.

https://www.rawstory.com/raw-investigates/ivan-raiklin-trump-rally/

[–] Zron@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

The party of conspiracy theories is eating itself due to conspiracy theories.

That seems about right.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I've said since the debate that something seems weird. It very much feels like Vance fully expects to be president, not VP. I don't know why or how that would come about, but he's not running like a typical VP.

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

President tries to kill VP during Jan 6th

VP decides to kill President first.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

"Relatively unknown, billionaire-backed, Ivy League educated politician selected by shadowy think tanks as VP to increasingly senile and incoherent Cult Leader."

Smells like the 25th amendment.

[–] root_beer@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago

This is the most garbage sith master/apprentice pairing I’ve ever seen

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

high-capacity magazine

Notice how they never tell you what high capacity is.

A normal handgun--as in, a regular Glock 17--will have magazines that hold anywhere from 13-21 rounds in a bone-stock configuration, depending on caliber. The only firearms that don't have this kind of capacity are micro-compacts, and guns that were originally designed by John Moses Browning before WWII.

This is sleight of hand to make it seem like the perpetrator was doing something deeply nefarious, when damn near any defensive handgun is going to have a "high capacity" magazine straight from the factory.

[–] paddirn@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Oh, but it was ok in 2009 when a guy attended an event that Obama was speaking at with an assault rifle? These Republicans sure don't like people to exercise their right to bear arms.

https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna32457652

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yeah, because the was outside at a rally in Arizona. That would be legal today as well. There are really dramatic differences in gun laws state to state. It's kind of staggering, especially when the states border each other. California and Arizona is a great example. NH and Mass. NY and Penna.

In one state, carrying a magazine that can hold 11 bullets, even if you don't have a gun and it has no bullets actually in it, is illegal. Cross the state line, and you can openly carry an AR15 with a bullet in the chamber, safety disengaged, and a 50-round magazine in the rifle and walk down main street.

It's pretty nuts.

[–] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

You have to bear them against the right people.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

booked at the John J. Benoit Detention Center on suspicion of possessing a loaded firearm and possessing a high-capacity magazine.

Serious question: Is that a crime?

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

In California, for sure.

[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I know in California it is. Any magazine that holds more than 10 rounds is considered "high capacity" and is illegal.

Not sure on the loaded firearm bit... California gun laws are crazy restrictive.

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

That's because of the risk of cancer. It's taken very seriously.

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[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They found him with a shotgun and a handgun and they think they stopped an assassination attempt? Sounds like bs; you’re not going to get close enough to use those unless someone really messes up at their job.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I think it's just the media trying to conflate it with assassination attempts. I doubt anyone involved actually thinks it was, but now Trump gets to throw this crap around and his supporters will believe it.

[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The article quotes the sheriffs dept as saying that they stopped an assassination attempt; the media is just reporting what they said. So, it sounds like the sheriffs dept are just inflating the issue to make themselves look better, which will give the trump campaign more fuel.

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So, it sounds like the sheriffs dept are just inflating the issue to make themselves look better, which will give the trump campaign more fuel.

And the media is doing its usual thing of not doing its job to verify claims at all and just printing whatever some asshole in a hat said at a podium.

[–] nomous@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure what purpose the media even serves if they just report what random sheriffs say as fact, it seems downright negligent in fact.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 217 points 2 days ago (9 children)

This is the USA, someone with a loaded gun in their car is near anything all the time.

[–] Bluefalcon@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 2 days ago (15 children)

I would be interested to see what information comes out on this one. A shotgun and handgun isn't going to do shit for an assassination attempt. Unless you are Gavrilo Princip.

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[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 118 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Local outlets say that Miller is a registered Republican. He has a master's degree from UCLA and campaigned for Nevada's state assembly in 2022, but lost in the primary election, according to local daily newspaper The Press-Enterprise.

Bianco said he is part of a right-leaning anti-government group and considers himself a sovereign citizen, someone who does not believe they are subject to government laws unless they agree to them.

https://www.newsweek.com/who-vem-miller-man-arrested-loaded-gun-outside-trump-rally-1968341

I'm more amused than I really should be about how they are eating their own now. Unless I'm misremembering, none of the three have been lefties of any stripe.

[–] cmbabul@lemmy.world 56 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

I don’t want to give any sovcits any credit at all but trumps recent rhetoric is so openly authoritarian that some of them might have actually realized the face eating leopard is a threat to them too

Edit: I can’t believe I just thought of this, but these could also be folks that hopes to start a civil war because they either believe it’s inevitable, are obsessed with the Turner Diaries, or both.

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[–] scala@lemmy.ml 37 points 2 days ago (6 children)

All three were Republicans.

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[–] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 87 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I call bullshit. He wasn't there to assassinate Trump. If he was, they sure as shit aren't letting him out on $5k bond the same day with only minor charges.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 90 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Why can't 2nd amendment advocates open carry at Trump's rallies? Does he not support gun rights?

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 40 points 2 days ago

Does Donald "take the guns first, due process later" Trump support gun rights? You tell me.

[–] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

No, he actually doesn't. He has been very vocal and clear about it.

[–] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 10 points 2 days ago

I guess he doesn't have many teachers in the audience?

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 3 points 1 day ago

The Black rights movement clearly showed that gun ownership is supposedly segregated too.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 89 points 2 days ago (7 children)

I always said if they were shooting up boardrooms instead of classrooms we’d have gun control yesterday.

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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 48 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So the NRA is going to hold a press conference about how this man's second amendment rights were infringed, right?

Also, every time I see "Trump rally in Coachella," for just a second I think, "why is he holding a rally at the music festival?"

[–] MightBeAlpharius@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Up until right now, I always thought Coachella was just the name of the festival, not a place - sort of like Burning Man.

I've never been more confused by a headline in my life.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

You've never been to Burning Man, AL? Great bbq.

[–] Linktank@lemmy.today 45 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I consider this a step in the right direction.

The deranged armed lunatics are now starting to attack someone who deserves it instead of random innocent children.

This is actually MORE normal than the school shootings, and makes more sense. School children aren't coming for your lives and livelihoods, but DonOLD tRump? Definitely trying to make your life immeasurably worse in measurable ways.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 54 points 2 days ago

This is what everyone keeps saying the 2nd amendment was for, right? Tyrants?

I'm closing this ticket with, "Operating as intended."

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[–] kevindqc@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Another Republican, I am shocked

[–] DocMcStuffin@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (5 children)
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