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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 44 points 1 month ago
[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 40 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So ....... why does the engineer behind me have a banana hairclip over his eyes?

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Oh crap, i have an "um actually" for that too...

Dr Pulaski offered to clone him some new eyes, but they wouldn't have the details or range that the visor does. As a Chief Engineer, I'd keep the extra visual spectrum, dude can see heat!

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

One of my favorite scenes from First Contact is when Barclay brings him a copper coil to look over and he literally eyeballs it going "yeah this'll do" because his eyes can see the micro fractures and imperfections in the material, something even Data can't do. I'd be pissed if someone told me they were taking that away from me!

[–] Goodmorningsunshine@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

True, but couldn't they make a visor that could do that for normally functioning eyes? Like, he could wear it as needed and see the world like normal too?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

They address this at some point. Something about him not having eye nerves made direct access to his brain via the same neural pathways possible+ necessary. I believe the visor turns the entire EM spectrum directly into neural signals that his brain interprets as sight.

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You would have to lose some sort of color if you use regular retinas to see a larger spectrum. You'd need new retinas with more cones to get new colors. Fun part is, you could have those colors all be translated into visual light if you do have more cones. More cones let you differentiate color better and thus gives you more discernable colors. Tetrachomats can interpret a broader spectrum that way.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd imagine it's sort of like how a lot of people prefer to wear glasses even if they're a good candidate for laser eye surgery. Personally I like how my glasses protect my eyes from debris and radiation, and I like wearing them.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

When i looked into laser eye surgery, they told me it could make my near vision worse... Near sightedness got me into books, so losing that would be like losing a limb!

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 37 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Um AcTuAlY, they drink it on starships so they can "shake off" the effects

I'm a blast at parties...

[–] Infynis@midwest.social 18 points 1 month ago

This actually makes a lot of sense. Don't want the first place everyone runs in a red alert to be sick bay for some Sober Ups

[–] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Mate a party with conversations like that would fucking go off, wouldn't even need synthehol.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

A further umm actually, couldn’t they just make future tech that could make you sober and kill hangovers also in an instant when required?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah it's called synthehol lol. It's why it exists, it stops the buzz quickly after and doesn't make you hungover. You don't need a high tech solution when you have a magic alcohol that gets you drunk but doesn't get you drunk.

The entire "replicated vs cooked" meals and "synthehol and alcohol" differences are there to make some people seem like "experts" but in the end just make them look like snobs. Shit's probably 99.99999% the same.

[–] dutchkimble@lemy.lol 1 points 1 month ago

My bad, I thought it was something like alcohol free drinks that taste the same or maybe have an extremely light buzz.

[–] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 1 month ago

eyup. came to say this as well.

[–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 30 points 1 month ago (4 children)

I've always wondered where weed fits into this techno-utopian future. There's never any mention of anything even analogous to it. Stoners don't just stop existing when warp drive starts to.

[–] shyguyblue@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

"I'm going to turn on my 'personal relaxation light'..." ~ Captain Jean-Luc Picard

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago

Earl Grey Hot ..... code word specific to Picard's voice for tea made with a touch of 24th century gange, psychedelics and sedatives

Anyone else who makes him Earl Grey tea is just regular tea

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Was that the DARE episode?

[–] GraniteM@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'd say Symbiosis was the DARE episode:

Wesley Crusher: Data, I can understand how this might happen to the Ornarans. What I can't understand is this: Why would anyone voluntarily become dependent on a chemical?

Lt. Commander Data: Voluntary addiction to drugs is a recurrent theme in many cultures. Regrettably, having had no firsthand experience with such dependency, chances are I cannot give you an appropriate response.

Wesley Crusher: That's all right, Data.

Lieutenant Tasha Yar: [jumping in] I believe I can, Wesley. In the first place, nobody wants to become dependent. That happens later.

Wesley Crusher: Still, if people know it happens, why do they even start?

Lieutenant Tasha Yar: Remember what I told you about life on my home planet? There was so much poverty and violence that, for some, the closest thing to an escape was through drugs.

Wesley Crusher: How does a chemical substance provide an escape?

Lieutenant Tasha Yar: In the real sense, it can't... but it makes you think it's doing so. You have to understand that drugs - can make you feel good. They put you on top of the world. You're happy, sure of yourself, in control...

Wesley Crusher: What's the point, though, if you know it's artificial?

Lieutenant Tasha Yar: Because it doesn't seem artificial until after the drug wears off. Then comes what they call a "crash". You feel just the opposite of the way you did earlier: sad, insecure, like everything's coming down on you and there's nothing that can be done about it.

Wesley Crusher: [DELETED LINE] Doesn't that wear off, too?

Lieutenant Tasha Yar: [DELETED LINE] Ultimately, yes - but the trouble is that a lot of people can't wait for "ultimately". It's got nothing to do with common sense; they simply don't have enough willpower to ride out the crash. So they take more of the drug to cope, to feel the way they did before. The problem with doing that is, your body adapts to the drug as you keep taking it.

Wesley Crusher: [DELETED LINE; doing the math] ... Meaning you'd need larger and more frequent dosages to get the results you wanted, wouldn't you?

Lieutenant Tasha Yar: Indeed. On the other hand, using more of the drug more often also leaves you feeling worse - and for longer - after it wears off. That's how you get trapped. Before you know it, you're taking the drug... not to feel good, but to keep from feeling bad. At that point, all you care about is getting your next dosage. Nothing else matters.

Wesley Crusher: I see how it all works, Tasha, but I'm still not sure I understand it. Sorry.

Lieutenant Tasha Yar: Wesley. Don't be. In fact, let's hope for your sake you never do.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That's the one I was thinking of, thanks

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

TNG would sometimes show "poor" colonists that needed to be saved, but by in large, they never dealt with the seedier parts of humanity. The original series did have couple of episodes that fleetingly showed the more seedy parts of humanity. So I would assume the stoners where still there.

And you can't ever discount the idea that weed might have simply fallen out of favor due to different and "better" options as humans contacted other species.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Yeah, I was going to say, sir this is a military vessel.

[–] DeathbringerThoctar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Pot does get mentioned in passing in season 3 of Picard, but very briefly and it felt weird.

[–] hopesdead@startrek.website 26 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Would you rather have to replace a liver or consume something that won’t force you to get a new liver?

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

How delicious is option B?

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Synthehol is less fun buzz-wise, shorter acting and tastes off. People ruin their livers now, imagine what they'd do without consequences.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

I can tell you what I’d do without consequences.

I’d like to live forever. If I could live longer and keep being an idiot, I’d keep drinking and the only thing I’d change is that I would be back on heroin.

About a decade off of it and I had a dream last night that I woke up to a penny stock I bought 5,000 of being worth 150 bucks. My first thought was, “HOLY SHIT, I HAVE NEARLY A MILLION! I could use heroin again and it wouldn’t hurt anyone but me!”

Isn’t that sad though?

Oh well.

[–] Wogi@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

New liver pweeeaaaaase

[–] TheTimeKnife@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (5 children)

I'd rather keep my delicious bourbon and let them clone me as many livers as I need.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

I regret every drink that is killing me liver, but I would do it all again if I had the chance.........

[–] bluewing@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago

Grandma always said "if you're going to drink, drink. Don't mess around!"

Grandma, just like Scotty, always knew best.......

[–] Shawdow194@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought the whole point of synthehol was it wasn't as intoxicating, addictive, or as damaging on the cells as normal alcohol

https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Synthehol

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I thought it was that it didn't give you a hangover?

[–] 14th_cylon@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I always assumed that in case of red alert, you drink some antidote and you undrunk yourself in 30 seconds

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With all the medical advances, you'd think there would be a significant number of really old people. Yes Picard wanted to grow old naturally. But I would think many would choose to look 25 forever.

[–] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

McCoy made it to like 125 years old. You just don't typically see geriatrics on starships.

[–] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Yes but he looked 125 and died at 125. I'm saying with the medical tech they've shown, many Federation Citizens would look 25 years old no matter how old and live virtually forever.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago
[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I know it’s sad.

Na it’s not really sad.

What is it?

It is

It is

It is Blue

[–] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

It's not supergreeen, that's for sure.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

It's the rowdiness.

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Scotty's going to give it all it's got.

[–] hallettj@leminal.space 2 points 1 month ago

Weirdly synthehol is much harder on the liver compared to alcohol.

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