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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 16 points 55 minutes ago

It's been clear for a long time that he's above legal justice.

If we're lucky, a hero will step up to bring vigilante justice, but most likely we'll just get no justice, as per usual.

[–] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 32 points 1 hour ago

You'll have a felon in the WH. Great job, America!

[–] Biggles@lemmy.myserv.one 1 points 25 seconds ago

This is the same crime that Michael Cohen got three years in prison for. A crime he committed solely to benefit Trump. It makes no sense.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 1 points 2 minutes ago

I certainly hope the 1st World countries will not allow a convicted felon to cross their border.

[–] Furbag@lemmy.world 22 points 1 hour ago

Judge Merchan is a fucking coward.

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 47 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The rule of law means that no one is above the law, not even the president. If the president is above the law then we do not have the rule of law. Being labeled a felon is the idea of a punishment, but since there are no consequences to this sentencing there is no punishment.

At least imposing a fine would have been consistent with precedent. At that point it would have been an issue with our laws being to lenient. That would have been a much more easily remedied problem than doing away with the rule of law, a founding concept of modern western civilization.

The rule of law was dead when the Supreme Court ruled presidents have immunity for core constitutional responsibilities and presumed immunity for official acts in Trump v. United States. This is another nail in the coffin.

[–] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 4 points 13 minutes ago

I have never heard of "unconditional discharge" being a possible sentence for a crime. It's like they made it up just for Trump.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 59 minutes ago (1 children)

Don't worry, this will appear 4th on the news sites after we discuss transgender issues and how "triggered" Musk is for the 6th time

[–] Wes4Humanity@lemm.ee 1 points 12 minutes ago

Don't forget the Gulf of America!

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 39 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

we must be respectful of the office of the presidency

Why do we have to be when he wasnt?

[–] ofcourse@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

The only jobs that convicted criminals can get in the US are in the White House.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 6 points 1 hour ago

Any GOP position will do, as long as it's the right kind of crime.

[–] Emberleaf@lemmy.ml 39 points 3 hours ago (3 children)

Let this be glaring proof to anyone who would otherwise deny it: Our democracy is broken and no longer functions for the benefit of the People. This is why revolutions happen. This is why we cannot trust our own government any longer. I'm officially done. Electoral politics has proven to be a gigantic joke, and I'm not playing anymore.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 4 points 33 minutes ago* (last edited 28 minutes ago)

I know it's decades too late, but it's still cathartic to finally see a lot of people waking up to the neolib/Republican good cop/bad cop con job routine warring over social wedges as they rob us blind since Reagan.

This country was dying before Reagan from our greed disease, and his administration killed any hope it had left. We need a new framework, this one is necrotic.

Revolution! Pain for us means a future for our children they currently don't have. Not a life worth living anyway.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 2 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

Agreed. This is why I'm going to vote Democrats and downvote anyone who suggests third party candidates

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 20 minutes ago)

Surely the Neoliberals next signature piece of legislation they won't shut up about for decades as a "victory" won't be a heritage foundation created plot to further enshrine for profit insurance leeches into healthcare! Hopefully!

I wonder how they'll move to the right next cycle. "OK ok, we now support the death camps, but God damn it, line in the sand, those death Camps will have Taco Tuesdays! Vote Blue no matter who!"

[–] ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 2 hours ago

If this is the lesson a majority of people learn we will be ruled by fascists for more than the next four years. Refusing to exercise power is self-defeating and will not inspire any revolutions. If we let things get worse they will get worse, because there is no floor to how bad things can get.

[–] h3adphones@lemmy.zip 48 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Prosecutors had recommended the sentence, saying in court Friday, “we must be respectful of the office of the presidency” and Trump’s pending inauguration.

What a fucking joke.

[–] crusa187@lemmy.ml 31 points 3 hours ago

You respect the office by holding the criminal to account. This is quite the opposite. But hey, what else should we expect from Merrick Garland, that do nothin’, hand wringin’, Republican-lite son of a removed.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

He's still a convicted felon, so won't be entering Canada (and other nations) anytime soon.

The caveat to that is this holds as long as Canada doesn't elect right wingnuts whose first order of business would be to grant that asshole a "freedom pass" to enter my nation.

What a cluster fuck this all is.

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Stop with the misinformation.

Anyone with a criminal record can ask to be let in Canada, they just have to fill up paperwork and CBSA approves it (or not).

GWB was allowed in Canada even with his DUI, he just had to go through the exact same process Trump will go through.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

It is up to the government whether or not they allow it to go through.

Ofc my preference is they don't.

[–] OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml 5 points 58 minutes ago

And obviously they'll accept the POTUS you misinformation baffoon

[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 36 minutes ago

Don't act like you knew that right after saying, full of conviction, that he won't be allowed to.

[–] JonsJava@lemmy.world 143 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

All you rich people who think you can break any law you want, let this be a ~~warning~~ roadmap

[–] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

Andrew Tate just started his own political party... He's following the roadmap

[–] Darkard@lemmy.world 64 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

And don't be thinking you can just get away with it either.

You will also be congratulated for doing so, and maybe even rewarded.

[–] Soulifix@kbin.melroy.org 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The only thing rich people are afraid of is getting pinned for child sex crimes. Anything else, they care less.

[–] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 47 points 5 hours ago (5 children)

No, they do that, too. Trump has done that. And the right falls all over themselves to minimize and refuse to investigate. As with climate change, if you don't know, then nothing is your fault. Even if it's your job to know.

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[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 104 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (12 children)

Not that I expected anything but this, but I'll repeat what I said when Merchan announced the sentencing delay until after the election,

Fucking pussies...

He should resign, clearly he's not fit for his position if he'll allow himself to be intimidated into inaction.

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[–] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world -2 points 48 minutes ago

He just did what anyone would have done! He paid for sex. Now can we please get the stupid landing page off pornhub?! Like what am I suppose to say? Yeah I'm not 57? I'm 17 today?

Anyway congrats to our king! The law don't apply the same.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 9 points 3 hours ago

Basically the judge vacated the decision. Tell me all the “but ackuallys” you want, but the net effect is that the judge unilaterally overturned the decision of the jury.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 hours ago

And here we are. Folks, I am not a lawyer but precedence proves that running for president makes you immune to both federal prosecution and state penalties.

I suggest everyone who wishes to commit a crime (or has already committed a crime) to register your PAC as well as donate to the GOP (like $10) just for good measure. You will need to report to the FEC and your local state electoral board your finances but eh fuck it. It's not like they are going to punish you for not doing it right?

[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 50 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Ha ha ha, this country is a fucking joke on every level.

[–] ramenshaman@lemmy.world 4 points 59 minutes ago

Ha ha ha 😭

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 25 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I get that there was basically no chance that a sitting president was going to jail. But it's not like making him pay a fine would have caused a constitutional crisis.

About the only good thing I can say about this is that it's at least being honest about the complete lack of consequences.

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[–] NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world 24 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Fuck off with this president bullshit is above the law. God our country is so fucked. Can't believe we rebeled against England for this shit.

[–] Pronell@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago

"You see, it actually said 'No! Taxation without representation!'"

[–] DougHolland@lemmy.world 24 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

We had a contest at my blog, predict the punishment Trump will get (not deserve). People guessed parole and fines and suspended sentences, and I've always predicted Trump would get no meaningful punishment, but I've never even heard of being "sentenced" to "unconditional discharge." Basically, sentence to no sentence at all.

Wow, it is sure good to be white and rich and connected in America.

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[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 16 points 4 hours ago

Prosecutors had recommended the sentence, saying in court Friday, “we must be respectful of the office of the presidency” and Trump’s pending inauguration.

Yeah we fucking should, that's why he should be in jail! He is disrespecting the office and rule of law, and sentencing him to freedom is enabling that!

[–] pepperprepper@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Was he under oath for his remarks? Stated that he won the popular vote by millions.

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