“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.”
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This is the same crime that Michael Cohen got three years in prison for. A crime he committed solely to benefit Trump. It makes no sense.
You'll have a felon in the WH. Great job, America!
In the race to the bottom, we're taking the charge! USA! USA!
I certainly hope the 1st World countries will not allow a convicted felon to cross their border.
The rule of law means that no one is above the law, not even the president. If the president is above the law then we do not have the rule of law. Being labeled a felon is the idea of a punishment, but since there are no consequences to this sentencing there is no punishment.
At least imposing a fine would have been consistent with precedent. At that point it would have been an issue with our laws being to lenient. That would have been a much more easily remedied problem than doing away with the rule of law, a founding concept of modern western civilization.
The rule of law was dead when the Supreme Court ruled presidents have immunity for core constitutional responsibilities and presumed immunity for official acts in Trump v. United States. This is another nail in the coffin.
I have never heard of "unconditional discharge" being a possible sentence for a crime. It's like they made it up just for Trump.
Judge Merchan is a fucking coward.
I understand the feeling, but I think this outcome is probably the best we could hope for, given the situation. If he had tried to impose fines or imprisonment, one of the higher courts would probably have intervened and the sentencing would never have happened.
Probably because maga has started killing people.
we must be respectful of the office of the presidency
Why do we have to be when he wasnt?
Yeah it's crazy. To me, respect for the presidency keeping it crime-free. People committing crimes in pursuit of the presidency or while in its office should be harshly prosecuted, not let off.
Definitely an unpopular comment to make in this thread, but from what I read at the time, most people don’t get jail time for first offense of this type of crime.
Of course, most people don’t hold press conferences outside of the courtroom bashing on the judge…
From whatever you read, are most people convicted of such crimes unpunished in any way, like Trump?
Probably not, but there’s also this:
Prosecutors had recommended the sentence, saying in court Friday, “we must be respectful of the office of the presidency” and Trump’s pending inauguration.
Makes you wonder why the prosecutors wasted all their time and tax payer resources just to recommend zero punishment. At least fine the dude in the amount he defrauded people.
Well, he wasn't President-elect during the prosecution. That said, seems to me that asking for no penalty is the opposite of "respectful of the office of the presidency."
The only jobs that convicted criminals can get in the US are in the White House.
Any GOP position will do, as long as it's the right kind of crime.
Don't worry, this will appear 4th on the news sites after we discuss transgender issues and how "triggered" Musk is for the 6th time
Don't forget the Gulf of America!
"We will invade Puerto Rico and force them to join the USA!"
main stream media orgasms from all the clicks they're getting
Let this be glaring proof to anyone who would otherwise deny it: Our democracy is broken and no longer functions for the benefit of the People. This is why revolutions happen. This is why we cannot trust our own government any longer. I'm officially done. Electoral politics has proven to be a gigantic joke, and I'm not playing anymore.
I know it's decades too late, but it's still cathartic to finally see a lot of people waking up to the neolib/Republican good cop/bad cop con job routine warring over social wedges as they rob us blind since Reagan.
This country was dying before Reagan from our greed disease, and his administration killed any hope it had left. We need a new framework, this one is necrotic.
Revolution! Pain for us means a future for our children they currently don't have. Not a life worth living anyway.
If this is the lesson a majority of people learn we will be ruled by fascists for more than the next four years. Refusing to exercise power is self-defeating and will not inspire any revolutions. If we let things get worse they will get worse, because there is no floor to how bad things can get.
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Prosecutors had recommended the sentence, saying in court Friday, “we must be respectful of the office of the presidency” and Trump’s pending inauguration.
What a fucking joke.
You respect the office by holding the criminal to account. This is quite the opposite. But hey, what else should we expect from Merrick Garland, that do nothin’, hand wringin’, Republican-lite son of a removed.
All you rich people who think you can break any law you want, let this be a ~~warning~~ roadmap
Andrew Tate just started his own political party... He's following the roadmap
And don't be thinking you can just get away with it either.
You will also be congratulated for doing so, and maybe even rewarded.
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Not that I expected anything but this, but I'll repeat what I said when Merchan announced the sentencing delay until after the election,
Fucking pussies...
He should resign, clearly he's not fit for his position if he'll allow himself to be intimidated into inaction.
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Ha ha ha, this country is a fucking joke on every level.
Me too, thanks.
Ha ha ha 😭
And here we are. Folks, I am not a lawyer but precedence proves that running for president makes you immune to both federal prosecution and state penalties.
I suggest everyone who wishes to commit a crime (or has already committed a crime) to register your PAC as well as donate to the GOP (like $10) just for good measure. You will need to report to the FEC and your local state electoral board your finances but eh fuck it. It's not like they are going to punish you for not doing it right?
To be fair, the judge specified that it was because he won reelection, not because he was a candidate
Basically the judge vacated the decision. Tell me all the “but ackuallys” you want, but the net effect is that the judge unilaterally overturned the decision of the jury.
I get that there was basically no chance that a sitting president was going to jail. But it's not like making him pay a fine would have caused a constitutional crisis.
About the only good thing I can say about this is that it's at least being honest about the complete lack of consequences.
It could just be that the fine would have been disturbingly low, and by fining that amount it would actually be more embarrassing than waving their hands and saying no punishment for supreme leader.
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Fuck off with this president bullshit is above the law. God our country is so fucked. Can't believe we rebeled against England for this shit.
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We had a contest at my blog, predict the punishment Trump will get (not deserve). People guessed parole and fines and suspended sentences, and I've always predicted Trump would get no meaningful punishment, but I've never even heard of being "sentenced" to "unconditional discharge." Basically, sentence to no sentence at all.
Wow, it is sure good to be white and rich and connected in America.
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