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I'm dumbstruck as to what to do. The US is building literal concentration camps, and none of my co-workers care at all.

In fairness, I work in healthcare with an almost exclusively cishet white population who are financially well off.

Many of them espouse to be Christians, and no one cares at all that the American government is following the exact playbook from Nazi Germany.

What do you do? How do you make people care before it's too late?

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[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 1 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 5 minutes ago)

If the concentration camps were started during the Obama administration and (nobody cared), then were operated during the first Trump admin and (the only caring-concern was performative) then they continued to operate under the Biden admin (while still nobody cared) then why would people suddenly start caring now?

BTW I'm referring to the immigrant concentration camps near the border. What ones are you referring to?

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

You don't.

A large swath of Americans have made it clear they don't care to pay attention and won't care until it personally affects them.

So we're simply going to have to watch our nation decline until the majority of Americans have personally been affected. Then we'll begin a long, difficult path to gaining back what we lost, just to get back to where we were before the decline happened. Then we'll be happy to be back in the same shitty situation we were before and probably let things slide back into a decline again.

Americans are stupid. And there's nothing you can do to change that.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 8 points 4 hours ago

I sometimes wonder is Trump does a lot of crazy sounding shit to make people who speak against him sound insane.

[–] alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 hours ago

My (great)-grandparents were part of the Dutch resistance during WW2. Along with a full 1.5% of the population.

Most people will not do anything, even if they are literally rounding up people for a genocide.

On the more positive side, a lot of people will support the resistance in small ways.

The number of people who actually, whole heartedly collaborated with the Nazi's was quite small.

Even some of the German soldiers stationed in their village would turn a blind eye. Some of them realized they were on the wrong side and they just did the bare minimum of what they needed to do to not get in trouble and not get killed.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 17 points 6 hours ago

Have you ever wondered how people reacted to the original Nazis in the 1930s? Well... now you know. If can feel proud of something, it is at least I am extremely against it and the whole 'what would you have done?' is basically answered definitively for me.

[–] Kwakigra@beehaw.org 8 points 6 hours ago

Something I've had to accept over the course of my life is that the vast majority of humans will passively accept anything as long as they feel like there's something they can do to not be killed. Only when it feels out of control whether they might be killed will the majority of people feel the need to act and no sooner. There has never been any changing this. Fortunately the vast majority of people are not needed to affect positive change. People who care need to set the tone and followers will follow as they do. Your efforts would be better served among people actively resisting or building structures that benefit people.

[–] Anonymouse@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

Perhaps you can find inspiration from Daryl Davis, who convinced 200 Klansmen to give up their robes.

https://www.npr.org/2017/08/20/544861933/how-one-man-convinced-200-ku-klux-klan-members-to-give-up-their-robes

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago

I don't do anything particular, I guess

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago

Not everything works out in life.

[–] agent_nycto@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

You could start by engaging and reaching out. For example, assuming someone doesn't care because of their race, gender identity and job is kinda shitty. Maybe look into those internal biases.

The next part would be finding out how they are and will be effected by this new presidency. Sometimes people have a hard time caring about a problem if it doesn't affect them directly. You might have to get to know your coworkers rather than make assumptions about them to learn this.

Being polite and nice to them also helps, no one wants to hear from someone who's screaming at them.

[–] BmeBenji@lemm.ee 10 points 15 hours ago (5 children)

I had a conversation with my second grade teacher on Instagram the other day. I posted Matthew 25:35-40 on my story with the comment “I can’t believe so many Christians I know support a president and a government that would willingly and forcefully kick Jesus himself out of the country thousands of times.”

She replied saying that this verse doesn’t apply for the same reason that I don’t allow just anyone into my house: because there are people who shouldn’t be there. There’s just so many things wrong with her logic AND her premises that I barely knew where to start, and that’s part of the problem. Fascism works by sowing doubt in the fabric of credibility. All she really knows is that her idea of Jesus comforts her, and so finding comfort somewhere probably means she can find Jesus and righteousness there too. You can’t really teach someone to care because they probably already do care, but you have to teach them to see the things that are actually happening, to trust the real experts, and to see the connections between themselves and the people who need care.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 4 points 4 hours ago

A good Christian would let people stay in their house, though. If they were robbed, they would still have treasure in heaven.

More Christians faith is paper thin at best.

[–] MoonMelon@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 hours ago

In Luke, when Jesus says (again) to love thy neighbor literally the next question someone poses to him is "but who is my neighbor?" Jesus responds with the tale of the Good Samaritan. In this story there is a man, a traveler from a foreign land, who was robbed and beaten and left on the roadside, suffering and ignored by passing strangers (including a priest). The Good Samaritan feeds him, fixes him up, and puts him up at an inn.

There's two laws... two. The first is to love God, the second is to "go and do likewise" as the Good Samaritan did. I'm a godless commie and I know this shit.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=luke+10%3A25-37&version=NIV

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