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In a post from a few days ago, I noticed that someone mentioned that they were afraid to post about their dislike of the Tudor BB58 for fear of downvoting. You know what? The BB is a boring watch that's not worth the money, and Tudor wouldn't be half as popular as it is without the connection to Rolex. If Rolexes were as attainable as they were in past years, cut that by a factor of 10. Would you really buy a BB if the reality were that you could just save a little bit more and get a Rolex Submariner? That's my hot take. What's yours?

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[–] NoAttorney8414@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

There's no such thing as "value for money" in the luxury watch space. All luxury watches are overpriced - that is the whole point of "luxury" - duh. Speaking along the same lines, I saw a reviewer try to justify the price difference between two dive watches because one was METAS certified whilst the other was only COSC certified - literally for 99.999% of people this won't make a difference. Most of these luxury watch goobers take their watches off to wash their hands.

[–] Nerazzurro9@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You say that now, but when I’m exactly 1.5 seconds late to the big meeting and you’re 3.75 seconds late, you’ll wish your watch had this kind of accuracy.

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[–] TBLMises@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Smaller watches look good on men and the idea that a watch needs to be the right size is ridiculous. When people ask "is this watch to small?" my answer will always be no. 36mm and 34mm watches look great too, especially dressier options.

Stop worrying, if you love the watch and dial wear it.

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[–] Value_horology@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Tissot PRX hater 🙋‍♂️

[–] TadpoleFishTaco@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Bro I don't understand why people like the PRX 😭

The design is just revolting to me. I get that it's got good quality and a good movement and such, but most integrated steel sports watches just look terrible to me.

[–] Autiflips@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The movement isn’t good. It’s a throwaway with plastic escapement (that does break) and dear god is it ugly. I’ve never liked the look of the 2824, and the C07.111 just makes it worse. It’s accurate when it’s new I guess?

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[–] spaniel_rage@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

This.

Ugly ugly watch.

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[–] justbrowsing78570@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

My unpopular take: people that can't afford luxury watches shouldn't go voicing their unpopular opinion about them.

[–] Nerazzurro9@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I applaud you for a genuinely unpopular take. I disagree, but will upvote you just to be contrary.

[–] Darkest_shader@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Do you apply the same logic to other domains? For instance, that people who can't become politicians should not voice their opinions about politicians, or that people people who has not been to prison should not voice their opinions about crimes, etc.

[–] justbrowsing78570@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, because crime and politics is part of the societal domain.

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[–] afla7un@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Air King 126900 is pretty fkn hot

[–] jewami@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I just can't unsee that it's just an Explorer I with massive minute numerals that mismatch the hour numerals from the Explorer. You do you.

[–] Cajun_Doctor@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I too love the comic sans font

[–] Fish_Beard_Face@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Everything that youtube reviewers crack on aren't that important. If every watch had a sapphire crystal, an adjustable clasp, 200m WR with a screw down crown, was "value for money" and had good lume... well, we'd all be wearing a dive watch from a microbrand.

I like the variety of watches out there.

[–] jewami@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same, though for me personally, the absolute minimum dealbreaker for any watch (excluding something like a G-Shock) is that it needs a sapphire crystal. I am tough on my watches, and a non-sapphire will get scratched up (or worse) very quickly.

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[–] MyNameIsVigil@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I don’t like color-matched date wheels. They’re always difficult to read, and it’s a cop-out toward placating fussy enthusiasts. I like a date with a white wheel that’s easy to read and framed prominently. It’s a useful feature; don’t try and hide it.

[–] Zim_Crowley@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Miniature seconds wheel looks tacky to me. I know Nomos gets a lot of love, but personally I am not a fan at all. Having a sweeping or ticking seconds hand it quintessential watch aesthetic to me. It's the visual heartbeat of the watch. I love dial complications like date, moon phase, day, etc, but they should be visually secondary to the main watch face. By having the a small seconds hand being the only active thing on the watch face, it distracts from the rest of the watch. A full seconds hand draws the eye over the whole watch instead.

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[–] MilesBeforeSmiles@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Big steel sports watches are the sneakers/street wear of the watch world. They are tacky as hell and their popularity is driven largely by hype.

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[–] sdujour77@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The Powermatic 80 family of movements are unfairly maligned, and horribly underrated.

[–] DoTreadOnFudds@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Hamilton and all field watches are dork watches

Longines is not that great and only pushed on Reddit for some unknown reason

[–] uwantallofdis@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I'll give you credit for really giving a hot take.

Why do you personally dislike Longines though? Swiss brand, long heritage, and tasteful design language (gives Cartier/JLC design notes imo)

[–] meatballfreeak@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I agree Longines is dreadful

[–] Leeeumm@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't say necessarily pushed on Reddit. Lots of watch YouTubers big and small love Longines, and theres a reason for It.

[–] bb12102@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Lmao, “dork watch” is the perfect characterization for field watches.

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[–] Boris_HR@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Never be afraid of downvoting. If you say what you think nobody can take that away from you.

[–] AnMuricanPrayer@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Every passing day I respect Jody/Just One More Watch less because of how much bootlicking he does for the Aliexpress brands. I don't necessarily hate brands like San Martin and Pagani Design on their own, but how much he insinuates that you'd be better off with Ali brands' (admittedly very well made and affordable) copies over the genuine article doesn't sit right with me for some reason. While Jody is right from a completely logical and financial perspective, I don't think he realizes that collecting watches is kinda illogical in of itself. People who can afford them WANT expensive watches because it makes them feel special and cool, and getting something that merely apes the look of a desirable watch when they could afford the real thing simply doesn't do it for a lot of people.

For example, he straight up says in his most recent 11/11 video that you'd be better off with an Aliexpress copy of a Doxa than an actual Sub 300 because he couldn't discern how the real thing would be any better. Given Doxa's reputation for making capable, well-crafted diver's watches that were able to stand up to the rigors of military operations, I sincerely doubt this. I also find it very hard to believe his claim that San Martin will become a legitimate threat to other affordable brands' sales, especially when 1. San Martin's sales are practically dwarfed by how many mall watches Seiko and Citizen sell, and 2. Their whole shtick and success is inherently contingent on either copying other people's homework, or otherwise producing original designs that range from generic to gaudy.

I respect Jody and like his content, and I don't mind his and many other people's affection for the Ali brands, but I have a hard time believing that some tried and true watch brands are shitting their panties because some niche hobbyists are buying homages of their watches.

[–] ServiceGames@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just a couple of quick things (not downvoting or trying to start anything).

  • Jody’s channel focuses on watches that are $500 or under (even he’s said this before). Does he occasionally show or review watches that are more than $500? Yes. Does he own watches more than $500? Yes. But, the vast majority of affordable watches that’ll allow him to continue making enough videos to be a professional YouTuber are going to be Chinese… and they are very easily available on AliExpress.
  • Second point and maybe a hit take, his first watch from his own watch brand is horrible IMHO. He feels divers are the end all, be all of versatile watches. They simply aren’t (again, IMHO). I honestly think a GADA watch would have been a better idea for his first watch.
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[–] codyforkstacks@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (7 children)

The Omega Seamaster looks like when Homer Simpson designs the car. Way too much going on.

“It has wavy lines on the face. Oooh and big sword hands. And a massive ugly helium valve.”

[–] faintlymacabre1518@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

The plain dial ceramic ones were the best variation. 😊

[–] ServiceGames@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I was gonna ask which one as they have a rather large Seamaster line:

  • Aqua Terra
  • Diver 300M
  • Planet Ocean
  • Heritage Models
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[–] 80H-d@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

80% of the people on here are complete pussies with their watches

[–] Cajun_Doctor@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

“My watch can go 666m under water! It’s tough as hell! Absolute monster.”

takes it off to jump in a swimming pool

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[–] esvegateban@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

"Fear of downvoting". I truly feel pity and a lot of contempt for the new generations.

Let's try, even if I'm afraid of everyone downvoting my comment: Your collection is ugly and irrelevant, what it needs is to be sold, maybe just that one watch can be saved; On the other hand, what your impressive collection says about you is that you have money, not taste. Yes, it's too big for your wrist. Ugh, another watch shot from a pov that includes your crotch and shoes. Stop coming to the internet to be told what to buy. It's the same picture. Yes, that shit is fake.

How did I do?

[–] Darkest_shader@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Watch size positivity movement is dumb. Sure enough, you can watch of any size on any wrist, but should you? Nope, because lugs going over the wrist by a large margin look ridiculous indeed. I am saying that as a guy with small wrists whose first watch was way too large, but who is happy now after having switched to a smaller size.

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[–] Mahler911@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Square watches are an abomination. And I don't want to hear about how the first watches were square. A lot of bad ideas throughout history have been kicked to the curb.

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[–] faintlymacabre1518@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I really wish women's watches could just be scaled-down versions of men's watches. I hate "feminized" styles, bling, and fewer available automatic movements than the male-targeted options.

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[–] Alternative-Land-334@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rolex is boring, and just a "look what money I can waste" purchase. There...I said it.

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[–] Uncle_Rico_1982@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I hate Cristopher Wards branding. I know it’s not but it sounds like a fashion brand name similar to Michael Kors or Steve Madden. That’s my two cents

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[–] Electronic_Bet_9919@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

People who only have Casios and seikos are losers or students

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[–] BuddySheff@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Watch nerds are usually the least underwater group of people I've ever met and NEEDING high water resistance in a watch is silly (most of the time).

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[–] Kauffman67@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Tissot watches are ugly

[–] ServiceGames@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
  1. I absolutely, positively hate the snowflake hands of Tudor watches. I don’t have any problem with people who like them or like Tudor… but, IMHO, that are UGLY!

  2. Also, Chinese market will be competing with the Swiss market within the next couple of decades.

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[–] specifichero101@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Seeing someone wear their watch up their wrist to the back of their hand gives me the same feeling as seeing a kid wear their dads suit.

[–] depeupleur@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Diver watches are ugly af. Especially the Rolex type ones.

[–] Cyimian@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Heritage is massively overrated.

Most of the exciting and fun watches are coming from the younger and independent brands in my opinion.

Most of the legacy brands don’t have a continuous history and have been bought/sold multiple times and in many cases resurrected with questionable links to the past.

[–] throwWay097861@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] bb12102@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The green Seiko Alpinist is the ugliest watch regularly posted to this subreddit. That was until I saw one in person, in which I realized it’s uglier than in the pictures.

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[–] cmndr_spanky@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

Actually I genuinely think the Tudors look better than their Rolex counterparts, the submariner just looks cheesy to me.

So I guess that's my hot take ^

My only other one is I think roman numerals look stupid.

[–] brucewayne1935@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Panerai should be commended for never faltering or compromising on their wild fucking design language.

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