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    [–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    Look, if it takes you 2 days to debloat windows, linux is gonna take a real fucking while to learn right.

    [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    2 days? He said 2 weeks haha

    [–] eronth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

    oh fuck that's even worse.

    [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

    The average Winblows user doesn't even know how to lock the screen without using their mouse or touchpad. Don't give me that "It's hard for people" bullshit. Most people can barely handle recognizing icons, which are the same regardless of OS.

    Well he's cooked and proob chopped as well

    [–] rolling_resistance@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Debloating windows is not a one-time adventure, it's what you're subscribing to do every now and then.

    source: am recovering windoholic.

    [–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

    OneNote re-installing and re-adding itself to my startup after I absolutely turned it into swiss cheese was my final nail in the coffin.

    Windows now lives in an image file that I can boot into using Linux as a thin client to start up a Windows VM for the occasional time I need to do some heavy Excel work. Absolute trashware.

    [–] Eyedust@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 day ago

    I walked this path at first, too. For me, it was more like my stubborn battle with Microsoft than not wanting to learn Linux (I had already learned Debian some time ago).

    I've flip flopped back and forth, but after the recent bs with screenshot and OS-side ads (for a PAID software, mind you) I haven't even given Windows a second glance anymore.

    If you've got the knowledge to truly debloat Windows, you have the knowledge to set up Linux.

    [–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    I'd like to try Linux with minimal commitment and no setup. Give it real test drive with some of my most important tools.

    If and when I decide to make the switch, I want to have access to my normal windows machine. I'd keep it around if I need it. But prefer if it went away slowly. I want to work with and communicate with windows users with neither of us having to jump through weird hoops.

    I want my printer to work.

    Problems will come up, but I don't want it to dominate my time.

    I'm sure most of you will say not to worry, but until I've logged some real hours, I will.

    [–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

    I recommend downloading a Live Linux distribution and booting it from a USB stick.

    This let's you try out linux without making any changes to your Windows setup. It also lets you make sure linux detects all your computer's hardware. If the live session works fine, the it will detect all that same hardware when you install it for real.

    I installed Linux on a secondary hard drive in case I needed to get back on Windows for anything. So far it's been a few months and I haven't needed to, so I'm considering having Windows in a virtual machine or just getting rid of Windows instead.

    [–] xeekei@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago

    Microsoft's incompetence is the best thing to happen to Linux in recent years.

    [–] NutWrench@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

    Plus, once you get done de-bloating Windows, the next Windows update will undo all your hard work and reset everything back to "allow all bloatware and spyware." It's a battle you're never going to win unless you ditch Windows completely.

    It takes less 2 hours really. Playbooks exist now and makes it way easier to use Windows XP 11. Cuz that's all anyone really wants.

    [–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Lost four installations at my house, and I have Microsoft certifications professionally so I'm fairly invested.

    Likely to be another few as I move the rest of my immediate family over to Linux slowly also.

    Yup, with ya brother. I have Microsoft certifications dating back to NT4. I've never been bothered by anything Microsoft has done, with the possible exception of WinME. I have done thousands of installs for friends and family. When MS started actively preventing me from installing W11 to "older" hardware and requiring a login, I started looking into Linux. I had run Slackware in the 90s so figured Arch couldn't be that bad... It was actually easier than I remembered.

    That was 2 years ago. This past weekend my Dad had somehow been force upgraded even though I had group policies in place to prevent upgrades past 22H2, and he wasn't happy with the result. Brought Linux Mint, booted from the USB and asked him to do everything he normally does on Windows. Almost all of his activities are browser based so I installed it and have yet to get any calls asking questions.

    [–] MyNamesTotallyRobert@lemmynsfw.com 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

    GUYS. Linux is stupid because there's no way to get LEGO Star Wars Skywalker Saga NPC Spawner mod to work. Maybe it fails because there isn't a way to get DirectX SDK installed in protontricks but some mods work without this anyway. I'm going to go back to Windows Vista as GOD intended. Or maybe Windows Longhorn.

    Thanks in advance.

    [–] voodooattack@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

    This was physically painful to read

    [–] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 67 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (8 children)

    Guys, I'm a Linux user, too, but can we stop having these fake arguments, please?

    Many such cases

    I never met anyone in real life who said the stuff shown in this meme. The handful of comments here are few and far between.

    Spent two weeks debloating

    The folks who care enough to debloat are either already on Linux or would spend maybe 1-2h to make a few fixes, before they get something they are okay with.

    Just install Linux

    For those who stick with Windows, it's often more than "just switching". They may need certain software, they may not be tech-savvy, they may be insecure about whether they could handle the occasional hiccup on a system that is completely new to them. All valid reasons for hesitation, and "just switch" is about as helpful as "just cheer up".

    Because learning Linux would take time.

    I've used Linux for 15 years now, and I'm still constantly learning new things. Linux is so much more usable now than it ever was, and I also think more people should switch. But suggesting that you "learn Linux" in two weeks' time is just silly and dishonest IMO.

    I wish we as a community could stop with this sense of superiority and actually acknowledge people's humane struggles to help them make the move.

    [–] simple@piefed.social 34 points 2 days ago (2 children)

    I wish we as a community could stop with this sense of superiority

    Not possible in a Linux community. They have only three jokes:

    • Fuck windows

    • I'm so smart for using the superior software stack (and everybody is an idiot for not switching)

    • and my personal favorite: constantly trying to trick people into using FOSS software by telling everybody they're as good even in cases where they're clearly not (bro please use GIMP it's actually really good bro as soon as you understand its archaic 1998 user interface it's just as good as photoshop bro please)

    [–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 15 points 2 days ago

    I just wish Linux memes were more about Linux than they are about Windows.

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    [–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 27 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    Learning Linux is nothing. Most people will never need anything outside of the GUI. There are distros that are very close to Windows in the GUI.

    Oh well. Same people think switching to a Mac will take effort.

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    [–] Reygle@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago

    Sunk
    Cost
    Fallacy

    [–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 77 points 2 days ago (17 children)

    I never understand this mindset because a person who is technically skilled like this is exactly the kind of person who wouldn’t struggle with Linux.

    They’re already the kind of person who would be an excellent Linux user. I can only imagine that, for whatever reason, they’ve grown emotionally attached and are simply too stubborn to consider anything else.

    [–] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 71 points 2 days ago (8 children)

    My favorite is the pcmr type that says Linux is to hard, but their comment history recommends registry edits to keep edge from becoming the default browser or something stupid.

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    [–] anarchy79@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    Linux takes a long time to learn and is often quirky and strange in unexpected ways- life long Windows users already know how horrible Windows is and its quirky strange behaviors.

    We stick with what we know. Unlearning behaviors is doubly hard when replacing them with something better.

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    [–] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 days ago (33 children)

    Actually, stop telling people to "learn" linux. Linux is either supposed to be easily navigable without the Command Line, or it's not the right thing for most people.

    Either dumb it down, or don't expect people to learn it.

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    [–] nul9o9@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 days ago (5 children)

    It'd be nice if public schools used Linux for coursework instead of Windows. But it seems they settled with chromebooks, so now kids are even worse off.

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    [–] PraiseTheSoup@midwest.social 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    I just did a fresh install of windows 11 last week, after my attempt to switch to Plasma on ~~Debian~~ Fedora did not go very well. While it's absolutely true that some de-bloating must be done right after install, it took me like 15 minutes. I spent at least that long just finding the three different goddamn places I had to go to change the wallpaper in Plasma.

    *Edit: wrong flavor of linux

    You spent more than 15 minutes changing wallpaper in Plasma? I smell bs because it's really simple.

    Right-click on desktop:

    Pick an image from the list, or add your own images (β€œAdd...”):

    After you click β€œAdd...”:

    The last windows I used was 10, and I remember the process being very similar.

    [–] dropped_packet@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 days ago (4 children)

    The problem is you used Debian which is missing bug fixes for KDE, and is on a frankly ancient 5.27 - I have had nothing but an awesome experience on KDE 6, with both VRR, and HDR, working under Wayland.

    Recommend trying a rolling release

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    [–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

    Fun coincidence, when I was about to write a supporting comment to this thread, my Fedora 42 running on X1 Carbon hard froze without any apparent reason and I had to hard reboot it.

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    [–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 2 days ago (3 children)

    There’s known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns. The first requires a lot less brainpower than the last.

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